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Kram said...
Okay, I'll bite...where you at the "official" NU camp last year? Did you actually observe and hear in person Ron Brown asking campers these types of questions? Videos can be altered. Was he asked directly about a certain belief?
I do believe that we are getting way off the subject of football and diving into matters that should be addressed on another site.
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Kram said...
Okay, I'll bite...where you at the "official" NU camp last year? Did you actually observe and hear in person Ron Brown asking campers these types of questions? Videos can be altered. Was he asked directly about a certain belief?
I do believe that we are getting way off the subject of football and diving into matters that should be addressed on another site.
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klein12 said...
this may not be appropriate to post on this board but... I think people have to understand the context and theology behind these passages before they jump to conclusions that God condones slavery. The book of Philemon is a case in point. To say the Bible says "its' okay to beat your slaves as long as they don't die," is to completely ignore the cultural ramifications of slavery within the context of the biblical times.
In fact God does not condone these actions but basically says "if you have slaves do not beat them to death." This isn't condoning the idea of slavery (which was actually quite different in biblical times than what we normally think of [circa 1600-1860]) but acknowledging that there are people partaking in this practice who ought to be at least held accountable to how they treat these people. Slavery in was quite different in and of itself, it was not normal to beat slaves. It was normal to treat them more like hired servants and in fact many slaves CHOSE to remain slaves to their current house after 7 years. they would pierce their ears with a wooden stake to show that they committed to living as a servant to these people for the rest of their lives. the Greek word for "salve" (doulos) is actually translatable to "servant." In other words, slaves in this time period were treated more like hired hands than the slaves we think of when we think of slavery.
Just some food for thought... carry on.
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Jewfrojenius said...
This will be my final post on this subject. 1. I was not personally at the camp, but I heard the same report from 2 separate players who attended. 2. I don't care about Ron Brown's personal beliefs, until they become a problem for the university. If he continues to evangelize in his official position he becomes a liability to the AD, and the university at large. 3. If he had made it clear that he was speaking as a private citizen, and not a university employee, I would be on the other side of the debate. All private citizens should have the right to free speech.
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IMHipp32 said...
No. I don't think that a man who speaks openly about his religious beliefs should be fired because of it. Having said that, I think Ron will likely resign over the negative publicity that this is causing. No question, that he loves NU and loves his higher power. Best of luck to him and a big "thank you" for all he has done for the school and the young men he has coached.
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Jewfrojenius said...
Maybe. It's becoming a pattern of behavior for Ron Brown to use his position on the football staff to proselytize. I know for a fact that last summer at an official NU camp he told at least one group of campers last year that the majority of them were going to hell for not accepting Christ. That is unacceptable. If this type of behavior continues, Coach Brown will be forcing the University's hand.
It's good to be the King.
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602Husker said...
WOW. I think you may know more than anyone here, but I hope you are wrong on this.
I know there has been talk of this prior to this topic, but he deserves to resign on his terms and his timeline. Coach Brown is a shining representative for the university, athletic department and community. He doesn't deserve the negative publicity.
Eh, maybe resigning now is on his terms.
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IMHipp32 said...
Oh. Hope I didn't unintentionally imply that I've heard anything about Ron quitting. Just is a hunch really. Ron Brown is a really good man with deep convictions. I really think that he doesn't intend harm on anyone and that the publicity surrounding this issue just will not be something he wants continually swirling around the University. It's not going to change him though, either.
Make no mistake, I support Ron in his right to voice his beliefs 100% and I hope he doesn't go. I just fear that it might push him in that direction.
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