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Report: Heard to leave Nebraska

  • joshwfo said...

    He was fantastic at running the toss, probably the best back we had at waiting and allowing the pulling G's to setup blocks rather than out running them.

    Yes. That he was. Heavy sigh!

    AmesHusker

  • No one's saying he's horrible... but he's not essential to this offense. People are making him out to be something he never was.... irreplaceable.

    klein12

  • Zonie87 said...

    No.

    Wasn't referring to you Zonie ....

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    joshwfo

  • joshwfo said...

    You completely overlooking his patience, his vision, and quickness. He doesnt have extreme shake, but he could change directions at full speed. No one can ever say he would or would not be able to take the daily pounding of the B1G, but kid was electric.

    Just curious were you upset at all when Aaron Green left?

    I did not see a whole lot of cutting at full speed...patience not sure he blew past blockers so fast could'nt see the patience. I never said he would not be able to withstand pounding just that his style dont really lend itself to that, like I said in the post wish we can see this happen just not sure ever will with such quality RBs ahead of him.

    No I was not upset when AG left...I thought he bolted to early before he could challenge for a spot. I felt like he thought he would come in and get the spot.

    PittHusker

  • klein12 said...

    No one's saying he's horrible... but he's not essential to this offense. People are making him out to be something he never was.... irreplaceable.

    My sentiment exactly! We will move on if he chooses to move on period. Big RED will keep rollin'!

    PittHusker

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  • PittHusker said...

    yes nice average but could he do that as an everydown back? in the big ten? take a pounding and still pass protect? IDK maybe never will if he transfers. There has been lots of Husker RB that had goudy averages but were never starters just change ups.

    I personally always thought Ameer would be perfect in the slot. I was hoping the staff would do with him what they alledgedly tried to do with Braylon, and get Heard more carries that way. Sad I won't ever get to see that.

    Big Red Phoenix

  • joshwfo said...

    Wasn't referring to you Zonie ....

    Sorry, it fit into the category of quitters.

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  • klein12 said...

    Watch Ohio State circa 2011... you'll see.

    That was a great move don't get me wrong, but that is not what Rex does typically. He is not a mover and shaker, that is all I am saying.

    602Husker

  • PittHusker said...

    good point about getting to playing multiple positions and not getting alot of reps....but all we see is game time, the coaches see everyday in practice multiple reps. I think the coaches love his athletism and were placing him in different positions to get that speed on the field, but I still think he will never be the #1 RB barring injuries, more playing time yes...starter no. I say if he wants to be a starting RB he may need to tranfer thats it.

    BTW...I feel Rex had amazing shake and wiggle with hard power...just not alot speed.

    Serious question cause you are not the first to mention it here, but where did it come from that Heard was not cutting it in practice, which has led to him not seeing the field?

    I guess I can't say he would be the #1 RB, cause I can't know that, but I sure would have liked for him to have been given multiple series to play. I guess I just don't see how people could count him out as not being ABLE to be a #1 based on his limited carries.

    602Husker

  • PittHusker said...

    My sentiment exactly! We will move on if he chooses to move on period. Big RED will keep rollin'!

    Keep rollin to Nowhere. You don't continue to lose talent like we have and keep winning.

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  • Zonie87 said...

    Amigo, wow. Our offense led the B1G. It obviously wasn't so "huge" that the players couldn't execute it... TOTAL OFFENSE G Rush Pass Plays Yards Avg/P TD Avg/G 1. Nebraska 14 3547 2904 1040 6451 6.2 57 460.8 2. Indiana 12 1570 3734 939 5304 5.6 45 442.0 3. Ohio State 12 2907 2178 837 5085 6.1 54 423.8 4. Penn State 12 1732 3278 931 5010 5.4 42 417.5 5. Purdue 13 2135 3100 957 5235 5.5 46 402.7 6. Northwestern 13 2942 2203 964 5145 5.3 45 395.8 7. Wisconsin 14 3309 2197 926 5506 5.9 53 393.3 8. Michigan 13 2389 2591 820 4980 6.1 47 383.1 9. Michigan State 13 1942 2729 957 4671 4.9 27 359.3 10. Minnesota 13 1975 2203 847 4178 4.9 33 321.4 11. Iowa 12 1476 2249 793 3725 4.7 22 310.4 12. Illinois 12 1534 2026 797 3560 4.5 23 296.7

    PASS EFFICIENCY G Comp Att Int Pct. Yards TD Effic. 1. Nebraska 14 233 378 13 61.6 2904 24 140.2 2. Ohio State 12 161 278 7 57.9 2178 17 138.9 3. Penn State 12 272 456 5 59.6 3278 24 135.2 4. Wisconsin 14 170 291 6 58.4 2197 15 134.7 5. Michigan 13 169 318 19 53.1 2591 20 130.4 6. Purdue 13 296 482 14 61.4 3100 30 130.2 7. Indiana 12 331 540 13 61.3 3734 24 129.2 8. Northwestern 13 231 369 7 62.6 2203 14 121.5 9. Minnesota 13 175 330 15 53.0 2203 19 119.0 10. Illinois 12 223 354 14 63.0 2026 11 113.4 11. Iowa 12 223 389 8 57.3 2249 7 107.7 12. Michigan State 13 244 465 10 52.5 2729 14 107.4

    We were very good except for Rushing Defense and Turnover Margin.

    PASS DEFENSE G Comp Att Int Pct. Yards Avg. TD Avg/G 1. Nebraska 14 187 397 13 47.1 2354 5.9 18 168.1 2. Michigan 13 198 330 7 60.0 2203 6.7 16 169.5 3. Michigan State 13 223 425 14 52.5 2285 5.4 10 175.8 4. Minnesota 13 231 404 13 57.2 2426 6.0 15 186.6 5. Wisconsin 14 255 464 8 55.0 2711 5.8 18 193.6 6. Illinois 12 180 288 7 62.5 2324 8.1 21 193.7 7. Iowa 12 224 353 10 63.5 2634 7.5 16 219.5 8. Penn State 12 244 430 10 56.7 2715 6.3 15 226.2 9. Indiana 12 222 356 7 62.4 2786 7.8 23 232.2 10. Purdue 13 260 447 14 58.2 3041 6.8 21 233.9 11. Ohio State 12 267 457 14 58.4 2922 6.4 15 243.5 12. Northwestern 13 289 497 13 58.1 3257 6.6 18 250.5

    PASS DEFENSE EFFIC. G Comp Att Int Pct. Yards TD Effic. 1. Michigan State 13 223 425 14 52.5 2285 10 98.8 2. Nebraska 14 187 397 13 47.1 2354 18 105.3 3. Wisconsin 14 255 464 8 55.0 2711 18 113.4 4. Minnesota 13 231 404 13 57.2 2426 15 113.4 5. Penn State 12 244 430 10 56.7 2715 15 116.6 6. Ohio State 12 267 457 14 58.4 2922 15 116.8 7. Northwestern 13 289 497 13 58.1 3257 18 119.9 8. Purdue 13 260 447 14 58.2 3041 21 124.6 9. Michigan 13 198 330 7 60.0 2203 16 127.8 10. Iowa 12 224 353 10 63.5 2634 16 135.4 11. Indiana 12 222 356 7 62.4 2786 23 145.5 12. Illinois 12 180 288 7 62.5 2324 21 149.5

    There is nothing about the defensive playbook that hurt the Rushing defense other than lack of talent.

    Braylon didn't affect or detract from our offense. He just was.

    Let's get real, okay?

    Zonie, I think you misunderstood me.

    I don't mean that the offense/defense playbooks are too hard to understand that they cannot be executed effectively. I meant that the playbooks are hard to execute if a player is switched around as much as Heard was.

    We saw that Turner had a hard time nailing down the playbook, yes cause he admitted he was half-stepping, but Turner also has only played offense. Allegedly, Carnes couldn't nail it down either, he has not switched sides of the ball.

    On defense, Bo consistently said that guys were out of place to make plays. This even goes back to last year. He said they practiced things over and over and guys still could not transfer it over to game days. Opponents never did anything they didn't already know. Guys could not execute the defense. Some of the guys have been in Bo's system for 3-4 years and they are still struggling to execute his defense.

    I don't think any of the offensive or defensive guys are stupid. It just takes time and they have to commit to learning it. In regards to Heard, the 3 position changes in 2 years does not lend itself to immersing and committing yourself to something that obviously takes time for many guys. I couldn't imagine he ever got comfortable.

    602Husker

  • klein12 said...

    No one's saying he's horrible... but he's not essential to this offense. People are making him out to be something he never was.... irreplaceable.

    I dont think you are speaking to any one person, but he is not irreplaceable. I agree.

    I can't speak for anyone, but I don't think anyone has said that. I haven't and I know I am one that believes he has not been given a real chance at RB.

    As much as I want him here, i don't know if this is the best place for him anyways. I don't believe things change for him if he stays. I don't believe he will be given a chance as Ameer is entrenched. I don't see the staff cutting back on his carries whatsoever. If so, it would be to disperse a few more carries to Cross, hHeard if he is still here, and to the frosh.

    I would have no worries whatsoever if Heard had to replace Ameer. I believe neither are irreplaceable. No drop off with either of them carrying the load. He has the talent to be a #1. With that being said, we will never know though.

    602Husker

  • TunaGill said...

    Each individual situation that has happened in the past few years can be reasonably explained if isolated. Jamal Turner wasn't going to unseat Taylor, and he needed to see the field, so that's why he was switched to WR. Green missed Texas, so he transferred to TCU. Moore was pussywhipped, and a baby, so he went back to Florida. Klatchko didn't pan out. Etc. Other examples that we could individually go into if necessary (we could also talk about on-field performance, but I'd rather not in this post).

    However, I'm not someone who believes in a lot of coincidences. I think that where there's a lot of smoke there's usually fire.

    In other words, to speak more clearly, I have a lot of doubts about Bo and the program. Do I think he should be fired? Of course not. But I don't think he'll ever get us to where I would like us to be, perennially winning conference championships, playing in BCS bowls, and being a Top 10 team that's feared.

    As I have posted in the past, Bo is a nice head coach with nice players. And that's fine. But I don't think we'll ever become elite again with him at the helm.

    Yes, I know we're close. I know we've played in 3 conference championship games in the last 4 years. I know we're a player here, a turnover there, not making a penalty, etc., from being where we want to be. But that's just it. We're close, and we'll continually to be close, and that's fine. But I don't think we'll ever get there.

    I hope I'm wrong. But I don't think I am.

    I respectfully disagree. I think Bo and the Nebraska football program is on the verge of something very special. Bo is a first time head coach who has taken a program in free fall and won at least 9 games every season and taken the team to 3 conference title games. His recruiting classes are getting much better and I think Bo "gets it" when it comes to coaching. I think the light has come on for Bo when it comes to recruiting and coaching. He's off to a better start than Osborne and I honestly think the next 3 or 4 years will see Bo and the Huskers in BCS bowl games and possibly a national title game. I hate to see Heard leave the program because he's one injury away to Ameer from being our starter but he has to do what's right for him. I wish him all the best.

    IowaHusker79

  • nustudent said...

    Is it moving in the right direction though?

    I certainly don't think it is moving in the wrong direction. But I'm not sure it's in the right direction either. Feels more like for every step forward we take in one area, we take a step back in another.

    If you look where the program was under Callahan and where it is now, yes it's moving in the right direction. At times it feels like we're spinning our wheels but I'll take the last five years under Bo over what we had under Callahan. Bo is off to a better start than Osborne, has won at least 9 games every year and has come within 1 second against Texas and one bad half against Oklahoma from winning two conference titles and being in two BCS bowl games. We aren't where we want to be but we sure aren't where we used to be!

    IowaHusker79

  • IowaHusker79 said...

    If you look where the program was under Callahan and where it is now, yes it's moving in the right direction. At times it feels like we're spinning our wheels but I'll take the last five years under Bo over what we had under Callahan. Bo is off to a better start than Osborne, has won at least 9 games every year and has come within 1 second against Texas and one bad half against Oklahoma from winning two conference titles and being in two BCS bowl games. We aren't where we want to be but we sure aren't where we used to be!

    Well of course we are better off than where the program is compared to under Callahan.

    That's not the question though. It's whether or not the program is moving in the right direction. As I said in my post, for every aspect we are showing improvement in, we have declined in another. Running in place is a pretty good description right now if you ask me.

    There is no doubt in my mind that Bo will never have us at the depths that we experienced under Callahan. But I also have little reason to believe he will elevate us above where we are now either.

    Ultimately Callahan and the program in his era has nothing to do with this discussion.

    nustudent

  • IowaHusker79 said...

    I respectfully disagree. I think Bo and the Nebraska football program is on the verge of something very special. Bo is a first time head coach who has taken a program in free fall and won at least 9 games every season and taken the team to 3 conference title games. His recruiting classes are getting much better and I think Bo "gets it" when it comes to coaching. I think the light has come on for Bo when it comes to recruiting and coaching. He's off to a better start than Osborne and I honestly think the next 3 or 4 years will see Bo and the Huskers in BCS bowl games and possibly a national title game. I hate to see Heard leave the program because he's one injury away to Ameer from being our starter but he has to do what's right for him. I wish him all the best.

    He's off to a better start than Osborne?

    nustudent

  • 602Husker said...

    Rex didn't have much shake, wiggle, or juke. Did he make guys miss sometimes with a move, yeah. But you can't say he had moves like described above. Heard was never given a chance to string any runs together, it was a play here and there and that was it. He never played for multiple series, let alone more than two snaps at a time.

    You can't put a guy at multiple positions, rarely play them and then say, well if he was good then he would have caught on somewhere. As we have seen with both the offense and defense, the playbook at Nebraska is difficult to pick up and moving positions three times in two years is not conducive to picking up and understanding your responsibilties and role. Nebraska coaches (defense in particular) preach knowing your position is not good enough, you have to know what everyone is doing around you, know the foundation or reasoning not just the play call. The offensive playbook is said to be huge also.

    What's Rex Ryan got to do with this? biggrin

    westoaksarthur

  • IowaHusker79 said...

    I respectfully disagree. I think Bo and the Nebraska football program is on the verge of something very special. Bo is a first time head coach who has taken a program in free fall and won at least 9 games every season and taken the team to 3 conference title games. His recruiting classes are getting much better and I think Bo "gets it" when it comes to coaching. I think the light has come on for Bo when it comes to recruiting and coaching. He's off to a better start than Osborne and I honestly think the next 3 or 4 years will see Bo and the Huskers in BCS bowl games and possibly a national title game. I hate to see Heard leave the program because he's one injury away to Ameer from being our starter but he has to do what's right for him. I wish him all the best.

    Do you wanna make a Ban Bet? I am down.

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  • westoaksarthur said...

    What's Rex Ryan got to do with this? biggrin

    Haha! Well that Rex definitely has shake and wiggle...just not in his hips, haha!

    602Husker