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Report: Heard to leave Nebraska

  • IowaHusker79 said...

    This just opens up the door for more carries for Cross or King Frazier or maybe one of the talented freshmen running backs we have coming in this fall. I'd hate to see Heard miss out on an opportunity to be our starting running back in the case that Abdullah goes down with an injury. That happened to Green last season when Burkhead hurt his knee and I kind of wonder if Green regretted transferring out. I wish the best for Heard but he might be walking away from a golden opportunity this fall. He might be.

    I agree with a lot of what your saying but what concerns me is why are we losing such good players. I'm concerned that there a lot of unreported problems between some coaches and players.

    We're getting two new RBs next season but we shouldn't be losing players like this.

    Kram

  • cmurchison said...

    He's the best running back based on what? Certainly isn't on field production or you think the coaches got it wrong by having Ameer take the majority of carries when Rex went down? We have Ameer, Cross, apparently King Fraizer and the two 4* freshmen coming in. Georgia used to 2 true freshmen last year so I think we can be okay. Didn't want to see Heard leave but if he wants to play more, probably the best decision for him.

    I think Josh means that if all a RB had to do was run the football, then Heard would have gained more yards than anyone else we have. He was probably a better home run threat than AA.

    As everyone is speculating, however, there's more to being a RB than carrying the football, and this is apparently where he fell short.

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  • TheUnknownFan said...

    I think Josh means that if all a RB had to do was run the football, then Heard would have gained more yards than anyone else we have. He was probably a better home run threat than AA.

    As everyone is speculating, however, there's more to being a RB than carrying the football, and this is apparently where he fell short.

    BH was the prettiest, but thats not all that matters.

    She's gotta be good in the kitchen too biggrin

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  • joshwfo said...

    Heard IMO was our best RUNNINGback on the roster. He wasnt great at pass pro, but the kids natural ability to run was unreal.

    I wish him all the luck and success where ever he lands.

    He really seemed like he could be electric in space. Unfortunately he was in a merry go round and seemed to get fed up with it but can't say i was not intrigued to see him in the slot running jet sweeps to get him in space or motioning him into the backfield.

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  • beardown2489 said...

    BH was the prettiest, but thats not all that matters.

    She's gotta be good in the kitchen too biggrin

    roflmao

    Kram

  • Ok after taking a step back and reading a lot of different stuff and listening to Damon Benning, etc...

    1- The staff had literally no clue he was even considering transferring (assuming the rumors are 100% true)

    2- This "rumor" about putting him to slot WR is just that... rumors. and what i heard this morning is it wasn't necessarily a position move but more of an attempt to get him on the field. he'd still be a RB he'd just fill in at the slot from time to time.

    3- I am going to sit back and let this play out. I really hope he stays he is a good kid, a great talent, and he sacrificed more than most just to come here. that is what gets me the most is clearly he wants to be here... so if him looking elsewhere is true it makes me really uneasy.

    I will wait to pass judgement. Perhaps we all should.

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  • Sucks to see another guy leave the program. I think that he is a talented runner, but I think the previous point made about not being an every down back is relevant. There's a reason we are all "arm chair QBs" and the coaches make the big bucks. Clearly they did not trust him to pass pro or maybe he struggled to grasp the offense. Thankfully we are bringing in 2 very talented guys and maybe this frees up a scholly for another lineman or corner in the future.

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  • Hate to see him go, however, if he's not with the program, I'll wish him the best and I'll try not to read anything into this other than he sees the writing on the wall. What about the free eduacation!

    NU slim

  • could it be Marrow is sabotaging Mooney once and for allstir

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  • Ok...I'm going to elaborate here.

    This is a loss. Plain and simple. Is it a program changing loss? Probably not. Could be if the right events take place though.. We are worse off today than we were yesterday,

    This hurts us on depth. He was an experienced, talented guy. Was he better than AA? I don't think you can say that. I think he offers some things AA doesn't, but I don't think you can say he was better. But I'd take him any day over Cross. And while Newby and Taylor are both very very good prospects...they will be true freshmen. Not who I want to count on.

    Maybe Heard wasn't the best in pass pro. Well...Cross, taylor and Newby haven't proven themselves to be either yet.

    Let's look back over the last 7 years. We've needed at minimum 2 backs because every year, our starter has gotten injured and banged up. May not have been season ending injuries, but they've missed time and needed a spell. If history repeats itself, we will need at least someone else besides AA this year. I don't particularly care for Cross yet. And i don't like relying on freshmen.

    This hurts us from top to bottom. It takes a talented guy off the team. Where Newby could've redshirted, practiced against our defense as a very talented scout teamer and had 3 years to play to be the man after AA goes, that isn't available to you now.

    Not to mention that his departure marks the continuance of two disturbing trends. The first is the soapbox I've been on for the last 2 weeks in that we are going to be even further down on scholarship numbers. You can't leave yourself as short as we are going to be and expect to compete with the best of the best. Secondly, is the disturbing trend of not being able to coach up and max out the talent that you do have.

    Does Heard's loss cost us a game next year? Can't say for certain it will. Just like no one can say for certain it won't. What it does do is hurt our chances of being as good as we can be as a team and program. Maybe we overcome it. Maybe we don't. All I know is that we would be better off heading into next season with Heard, then we will be without him.

    nustudent

  • Husker Z said...

    Gotta feel for the kid, he has loads of talent, but just hit our program at the wrong time. I certainly wouldn't want many carries taken from Ameer and with Cross, Newby and Taylor coming up, you just have to figure you are going to really have to separate yourself to be the feature back and I don't know if Heard would ever be that guy.

    Good luck to him, I can't wait to see him become that feature back somewhere, I think he has the potential to be a star!

    Exactly. This is not that surprising. He has enough talent to be playing a lot somewhere, just not here under the current circumstances. Good luck to him.

    westoaksarthur

  • People are neglecting to mention King Frazier, certainly a valued member of the roster as he made the 105 last year and is a Ron Brown favorite

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  • TheUnknownFan said...

    Did anyone notice that whenever Heard was on the field last year he almost always got the ball? No deception. When he was in, his number got called.

    He rarely, if ever, got a series of downs. Just a few plays here and there.

    Anyone thought why that would be?

    Heard was not an every down back because he could not be counted on to fill that position. In other words, unless he was actually running the ball, he could not be depended on to fulfill his obligations as an every down back. Thus, AA and Rex got most the action, with Heard supplementing with plays called just for him.

    Like most, I liked what I saw when Heard ran the ball, but that's not the whole story for an every down RB. He probably saw that he would be 2nd fiddle to AA and relegated to spot duty this coming year and the next. Obviously, there's some new hotshots on the horizon to complicate matters further.

    It's not unlike the Aaron Green deal. Some guys think they deserve the bulk of the action whether that's truly warranted or not. What's ironic, is that if Rex hadn't got hurt, we would have seen practically nothing of BH this past year. It's additionally ironic that BH didn't have the foresight to see what happened to Rex in 2012 could happen to AA in 2013 (or even in practice), and he might end up the #1 guy by default. Injury to the 1st stringer is what paved the way for Abdullah.

    As far as the supposed position move, I just see that as an attempt to get Heard on the field more often. He was only getting 5-6 plays a game as a RB, and as part of the regular rotation at WR would have likely been on the field more often. As far as catches, who knows what would have happened.

    Hate to see him go, as I do think there would have been a greater effort to get him on the field this year, even if he's deficient in pass-pro or what have you.

    Well said. I'd like to have him on the team but this is not that big of a loss in the scheme of things.

    westoaksarthur

  • beardown2489 said...

    People are neglecting to mention King Frazier, certainly a valued member of the roster as he made the 105 last year and is a Ron Brown favorite

    He's a walk-on who hasn't played one meaningful down yet. That's not neglect....that's looking at things for what they are.

    When Frazier does something outside of just earning coach-speak praise from scout team duty...then I'll consider him

    nustudent

  • nustudent said...

    He's a walk-on who hasn't played one meaningful down yet. That's not neglect....that's looking at things for what they are.

    When Frazier does something outside of just earning coach-speak praise from scout team duty...then I'll consider him

    censored ... im finding myself 100% agreeing with Lando and NU today... wtf is going on! panic ... +1 for you nu... for the second time today.

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  • beardown2489 said...

    People are neglecting to mention King Frazier, certainly a valued member of the roster as he made the 105 last year and is a Ron Brown favorite

    I truly hope King is the greatest "under the radar back" we have ever seen... just hard to consider him without seeing him tote the Rock in a game

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  • NU

    you've been talking about numbers a lot over the last few weeks.

    We have numbers at RB. This is NOT that big a deal compared to other things we've been talking about. This is just the most recent "breaking news" that has sparked some conversation.

    If the end game is numbers, RB has numbers.

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  • iBleedRed6801 said...

    Ok after taking a step back and reading a lot of different stuff and listening to Damon Benning, etc...

    1- The staff had literally no clue he was even considering transferring (assuming the rumors are 100% true)

    2- This "rumor" about putting him to slot WR is just that... rumors. and what i heard this morning is it wasn't necessarily a position move but more of an attempt to get him on the field. he'd still be a RB he'd just fill in at the slot from time to time.

    3- I am going to sit back and let this play out. I really hope he stays he is a good kid, a great talent, and he sacrificed more than most just to come here. that is what gets me the most is clearly he wants to be here... so if him looking elsewhere is true it makes me really uneasy.

    I will wait to pass judgement. Perhaps we all should.

    iBR, good, unemotional and well thought out response to the announcement from the local Youngstown regional paper.

    The bottom line, if you won't put in the extra effort and hard work that Rex, Ameer and Imani bring everyday, you are not going to supersede them in playing time. If you are not willing to outwork Ameer, Imani and the new RB's coming in this fall, they will excel and pass you by. That is and always has been the known rule of competition in big boy D1 college football.

    Like, iBR I don't know any confirmed facts of this situation or how this ends, but the constant second guessing of everything going on about Bo and the program is uncalled for. This is one of the reasons that social media is a predictable tool for those too impatient to know all of the facts before demonstrating their own lack of such. We are supposed to value personal opinions as highly as facts, in today's world, maybe that's why chaos is the norm rather than having common sense prevail.

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  • beardown2489 said...

    NU

    you've been talking about numbers a lot over the last few weeks.

    We have numbers at RB. This is NOT that big a deal compared to other things we've been talking about. This is just the most recent "breaking news" that has sparked some conversation.

    If the end game is numbers, RB has numbers.

    While RB was probably one of our more stronger units....the numbers are not as strong as you make them out to be.

    You have AA. Legit player
    Cross....has not proven to be anything more than a guy who can move a pile on 3rd and 1.
    Taylor and Newby...true frosh.

    That's just 4 RBs now. From a position that has shown over time that you need 2 (at an absolute minimum)-3 legit players at.

    You just expedited the development of Newby and Taylor. They are both very good prospects but now you can't bring them along slowly. You just threw them in the fire.

    Not to mention the future implications.

    nustudent

  • Zonie87 said...

    iBR, good, unemotional and well thought out response to the announcement from the local Youngstown regional paper.

    The bottom line, if you won't put in the extra effort and hard work that Rex, Ameer and Imani bring everyday, you are not going to supersede them in playing time. If you are not willing to outwork Ameer, Imani and the new RB's coming in this fall, they will excel and pass you by. That is and always has been the known rule of competition in big boy D1 college football.

    Like, iBR I don't know any confirmed facts of this situation or how this ends, but the constant second guessing of everything going on about Bo and the program is uncalled for. This is one of the reasons that social media is a predictable tool for those too impatient to know all of the facts before demonstrating their own lack of such. We are supposed to value personal opinions as highly as facts, in today's world, maybe that's why chaos is the norm rather than having common sense prevail.

    You aren't supposed to view opinions as highly as facts. And the facts here are that we lost our second string running back. We've proven over the years you need a viable second string option. And now true frosh will be the ones who look to replace him. And our scholarship numbers take another hit. Those are all facts.

    nustudent

  • Here's the deal. Whether Heard leaves or not he is not better than Abdullah. If he was. He would play. These coaches are coaching for their jobs, they aren't going to stick to some idealistic favoritism to screw a player. Heard's fast. Smoking fast. And he has good vision.

    Abdullah is fast, not AS fast, but fast. He has just as good of vision, better elusiveness and more power. He runs behind his pads, cuts on a dime and isn't afraid to run between the tackles.

    Heard is blazing fast, and hits the hole well. Once he gets into the open field not many are going to catch him. He runs way too upright which limits his power and makes him more susceptable to injury. He lacks shiftiness or "wiggle" to make that extra yard as well.

    Cross is deceptably fast... he's fast than Le'Vion Bell that's for sure... he runs between the tackles, has an abdormal ammount of wiggle for a big guy and runs behind his pads. Oh, and he's good in pass-pro too.

    I'll also never understand people saying a kid like this got "screwed" by the coaches. We see games, and "hear" things from people at practice. We don't watch the practice film, we don't see the drills or the conditioning. Heard was a driven kid. I'm not doubting his work ethic. It would be inappropriate for me to do so, but I do doubt the results. Seems to me that Abdullah just came out on the better end.

    klein12

  • nustudent said...

    You have AA. Legit player
    Cross....has not proven to be anything more than a guy who can move a pile on 3rd and 1.
    King Frazier - stud walk on i keep ignoring
    Taylor and Newby...true frosh who could still redshirt if we are blessed with good health. If not, worse things could happen.

    That's 5 RBs.

    FIFY

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