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Husker SF said...
The stolen innocense and life long destruction so many kids suffered thank you BGJ for never letting us forget that this man and many others who basically looked the other way while their lives were forever changed.
To do literally nothing while this kids lives fell apart makes it even worse, if ever so slightly when anyone tries to defend Joe P. God Bless all these tortured kids now adults. My prayers are forever with you.
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BigGameJames said...
This is why I have such angst with Paterno. He went out of his way to say his program was different and even pointed fingers (Switzer, Jackie S) when in fact they were the same or worse with how he felt they were above the law.
This behavior even went so far as to allow a molester to not only NOT face real consequences but continue his ways, just with less university assistance.
http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/09/justice/pennsylvania-penn-state-paterno/index.html
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daddyact said...
We're talking about two completely different things.
Paterno ran the program so that they would never go through probations and sanctions. Very clean program. Much like Osborne's.
On the other side is the criminal acts that became prevalent over the last ten to fifteen years. That has naught to do with the NCAA, and is totally about personal behavior. It's nearly impossible to control a another person's behavior, if they are intent on breaking the law.
About all you can do is get rid of them.
As I said, the issues are two sides of the same coin, but do not come into contact with each other.
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bramaekers said...
I disagree with you whole heartedly. I have no clue how you can separate the football and the NCAA from the rapes that were allowed to happen and covered up by the football program. You can differentiate them however you feel, and I am not saying you are wrong in how you view the events that took place, only that I don't know how you could feel the way you do.
If you are on one side of the spectrum, I would be on the opposite. The fact that Penn state is even going to play football, or any other sports for that matter, is an insult to the people that were raped and abused. It is validation that at Penn state football trumps all. In my opinion that program deserves the death penalty, and I hope that the lawsuits bankrupt the school.
I may be in the minority, but it is how I feel.
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So in your opinion, PSU should have just shut down the football program, and indeed all their sports teams because of the actions of one individual?
Or are you suggesting that firing that person was simply not enough?
First of all that is a state university, just like Nebraska. This is not only likely to bankrupt the school, but also the state.
Secondly, the man was retired from the football program in 1998. You cannot hold the university responsible for any of his actions since then. He wasn't an employee of the school any longer.
Third, they had only the word of a single individual - one person - who saw something in the shower. the question that has never been answered is who was the other person? Was he a consenting adult, that is, over the age of 18. If so, then it's not necessarily a rape. The nature of the incident that spurred his retirement is not determined.
So much of this took place when he was no longer under the purview of the University. Now, I think the University was wrong to try to over it up, but that's also a problem created by men who are either dead or have been fired/retired as well.
Look, I get it. For many people this is a deeply personal issue. I understand. But wishing for the death penalty for issues that are criminal, not necessarily NCAA issues, is rather pointless. Yes, there will probably be sanctions of some kind, but you don't shut down an entire athletic program for the actions of a single individual. And you can't shut down a State University for the same reason.
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So in your opinion, PSU should have just shut down the football program, and indeed all their sports teams because of the actions of one individual?
Or are you suggesting that firing that person was simply not enough?
First of all that is a state university, just like Nebraska. This is not only likely to bankrupt the school, but also the state.
Secondly, the man was retired from the football program in 1998. You cannot hold the university responsible for any of his actions since then. He wasn't an employee of the school any longer.
Third, they had only the word of a single individual - one person - who saw something in the shower. the question that has never been answered is who was the other person? Was he a consenting adult, that is, over the age of 18. If so, then it's not necessarily a rape. The nature of the incident that spurred his retirement is not determined.
So much of this took place when he was no longer under the purview of the University. Now, I think the University was wrong to try to over it up, but that's also a problem created by men who are either dead or have been fired/retired as well.
Look, I get it. For many people this is a deeply personal issue. I understand. But wishing for the death penalty for issues that are criminal, not necessarily NCAA issues, is rather pointless. Yes, there will probably be sanctions of some kind, but you don't shut down an entire athletic program for the actions of a single individual. And you can't shut down a State University for the same reason.
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bramaekers said...
It may have been the actions of one person doing the raping, but it was a more than that doing the cover up, which took place within the athletic department, which falls under NCAA jurisdiction. Yes I think the school should be shut down, and until all the facts are in the open I will hold my ground.
At every stage of the investigation people have denied any truth of the matter at hand or their involvement in covering it up. Atleast until it is proven that they were involved in one way or another, in whig case they resign or step down from their current positions. Those aren't people that are remorseful for their actions, but people that don't care about what happened to the victims or the families of the victims. They only care about themselves and the longevity of their career, and doing whatever it takes to prolong the career.
There is still so much we don't know, and no one but the individuals involved actually know how deep this actually went.
I think paterno got off free. He died without ever having to own up to his part in this. I hope he is removed from the hall of fame.
As for the people that covered it up, they should have the same punishments as sandusky, as their acts were just as heinous.
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A very wise decision. 


PSU--hahahahahahahaha--karma for Joe Scum