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PSU--hahahahahahahaha--karma for Joe Scum

  • Off the field there is nothing better than seeing hypocrites get theirs. Just so relieved everyone knows what many suspected about Joe--complete fraud from the day he took over to 2011.

    But I never guessed so callous, and evil. Guessing the 2nd part started kicking in as PSU rose in the 1980s and power became the only goal.

    God bless Jim D for taking his name off of Big 10 trophy!

    And the only thing PSu fans are talking about is how they long they have to wait to for a "big honor" for Joe Scum--hahahahahahahahahahaha.

    Just hope there is mo to take him out of the college HOF. But they didn't take OJ out so not holding my breath.

    I'm bored...Im going to cut and paste the above to that PSU clown Anthony Lubrano--hahahahaha

    And this isn't me gloating at an injury, this is a fan base who who wont put blame where it is obvious.

    This post was edited by BigGameJames on 7/8/2012 at 8:56 AM

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  • I can't wait till they take down the Paterno statue

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  • ...Did I miss a new development?

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  • H.I.GUY2012 said...

    I can't wait till they take down the Paterno statue

    Won't happen. Joe covered his tracks too well...actually he didn't as we have seen lately.

    And where he didn't PSU fans will just look the other way or talk about 50 years of "good."

    What did he ever do that wasn't primarily to build his powerbase at PSU?

    Please PSU fan answer me.

    This post was edited by Kevin Ryan on 7/8/2012 at 10:31 PM

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  • BigGameJames said...

    Please PSU fan answer me.

    Where you are: Nebraska board.

    What you're looking for: Penn State board.

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    Where you are: Nebraska board.

    What you're looking for: Penn State board.

    My comment might upset the mods, so I won't :).

    BigGameJames

  • BigGameJames said...

    My comment might upset the mods, so I won't :).

    lol A very wise decision.

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    lol A very wise decision.

    Actually it might be a while before we have much Big 10 interaction like we did Big8/12 to be fair.

    And I'm a fair hombre.

    BigGameJames

  • BigGameJames said...

    Actually it might be a while before we have much Big 10 interaction like we did Big8/12 to be fair.

    And I'm a fair hombre.

    I don't follow. You don't think we'll have much 'heated' discussion? 'Cause we've got posters here that have ruffled feathers across other boards JUST fine so far. lol

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  • The stolen innocense and life long destruction so many kids suffered thank you BGJ for never letting us forget that this man and many others who basically looked the other way while their lives were forever changed.

    To do literally nothing while this kids lives fell apart makes it even worse, if ever so slightly when anyone tries to defend Joe P. God Bless all these tortured kids now adults. My prayers are forever with you.

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  • Husker SF said...

    The stolen innocense and life long destruction so many kids suffered thank you BGJ for never letting us forget that this man and many others who basically looked the other way while their lives were forever changed.

    To do literally nothing while this kids lives fell apart makes it even worse, if ever so slightly when anyone tries to defend Joe P. God Bless all these tortured kids now adults. My prayers are forever with you.

    Yes, I will possibly be writing a column soon in that vein. And it is always good to quote Andy from "Shawshank."

    Just as Andy asked the warden, the victims wish they could ask JoePa "How can you be so obtuse?"

    BigGameJames

  • BigGameJames said...

    Yes, I will possibly be writing a column soon in that vein. And it is always good to quote Andy from "Shawshank."

    Just as Andy asked the warden, the victims wish they could ask JoePa "How can you be so obtuse?"

    Actually, I ain't writing that.

    I don't want the family of the fictional warden (lol) coming after me b/c they object to me putting their grandfather in JoePa's class!

    BigGameJames

  • The most disturbing part of this horrific scandal is that nobody askes the question, or even tried to find out who the boy was that Sandusky was with in the shower when McQueary witnessed the event.

    McQueary waited a day before telling Joe Pa, and then he sat on it over the weekend because he didn't want to inconvenience anynody.

    Where was the concern for the victim? Why did nobody try to figure out who it was and make sure he was safe? How come nobody has even tried to find out who this boy was even to this day?

    I've quit researching the back story on this whole fiasco because the more you dig the sicker it gets.

    Skerz

  • BornToBeRed said...

    ...Did I miss a new development?

    James is a little over-the-top about JoePa, as if he went around raping kids himself.

    If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.

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  • daddyact said...

    James is a little over-the-top about JoePa, as if he went around raping kids himself.

    Yep, you are right. I had been going a bit overboard.

    I mean everyone knows the actual act of doing it and letting it continue so your "business" wont get any bad pub are night and day different.

    Maybe you could answer "How obtuse was Joe?"

    BigGameJames

  • This is why I have such angst with Paterno. He went out of his way to say his program was different and even pointed fingers (Switzer, Jackie S) when in fact they were the same or worse with how he felt they were above the law.

    This behavior even went so far as to allow a molester to not only NOT face real consequences but continue his ways, just with less university assistance.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/09/justice/pennsylvania-penn-state-paterno/index.html

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  • BigGameJames said...

    This is why I have such angst with Paterno. He went out of his way to say his program was different and even pointed fingers (Switzer, Jackie S) when in fact they were the same or worse with how he felt they were above the law.

    This behavior even went so far as to allow a molester to not only NOT face real consequences but continue his ways, just with less university assistance.

    http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/09/justice/pennsylvania-penn-state-paterno/index.html

    We're talking about two completely different things.

    Paterno ran the program so that they would never go through probations and sanctions. Very clean program. Much like Osborne's.

    On the other side is the criminal acts that became prevalent over the last ten to fifteen years. That has naught to do with the NCAA, and is totally about personal behavior. It's nearly impossible to control a another person's behavior, if they are intent on breaking the law.

    About all you can do is get rid of them.

    As I said, the issues are two sides of the same coin, but do not come into contact with each other.

    If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.

    daddyact

  • daddyact said...

    We're talking about two completely different things.

    Paterno ran the program so that they would never go through probations and sanctions. Very clean program. Much like Osborne's.

    On the other side is the criminal acts that became prevalent over the last ten to fifteen years. That has naught to do with the NCAA, and is totally about personal behavior. It's nearly impossible to control a another person's behavior, if they are intent on breaking the law.

    About all you can do is get rid of them.

    As I said, the issues are two sides of the same coin, but do not come into contact with each other.

    I disagree with you whole heartedly. I have no clue how you can separate the football and the NCAA from the rapes that were allowed to happen and covered up by the football program. You can differentiate them however you feel, and I am not saying you are wrong in how you view the events that took place, only that I don't know how you could feel the way you do.

    If you are on one side of the spectrum, I would be on the opposite. The fact that Penn state is even going to play football, or any other sports for that matter, is an insult to the people that were raped and abused. It is validation that at Penn state football trumps all. In my opinion that program deserves the death penalty, and I hope that the lawsuits bankrupt the school.

    I may be in the minority, but it is how I feel.

    WintersComing

  • bramaekers said...

    I disagree with you whole heartedly. I have no clue how you can separate the football and the NCAA from the rapes that were allowed to happen and covered up by the football program. You can differentiate them however you feel, and I am not saying you are wrong in how you view the events that took place, only that I don't know how you could feel the way you do.

    If you are on one side of the spectrum, I would be on the opposite. The fact that Penn state is even going to play football, or any other sports for that matter, is an insult to the people that were raped and abused. It is validation that at Penn state football trumps all. In my opinion that program deserves the death penalty, and I hope that the lawsuits bankrupt the school.

    I may be in the minority, but it is how I feel.

    So in your opinion, PSU should have just shut down the football program, and indeed all their sports teams because of the actions of one individual?

    Or are you suggesting that firing that person was simply not enough?

    First of all that is a state university, just like Nebraska. This is not only likely to bankrupt the school, but also the state.

    Secondly, the man was retired from the football program in 1998. You cannot hold the university responsible for any of his actions since then. He wasn't an employee of the school any longer.

    Third, they had only the word of a single individual - one person - who saw something in the shower. the question that has never been answered is who was the other person? Was he a consenting adult, that is, over the age of 18. If so, then it's not necessarily a rape. The nature of the incident that spurred his retirement is not determined.

    So much of this took place when he was no longer under the purview of the University. Now, I think the University was wrong to try to over it up, but that's also a problem created by men who are either dead or have been fired/retired as well.

    Look, I get it. For many people this is a deeply personal issue. I understand. But wishing for the death penalty for issues that are criminal, not necessarily NCAA issues, is rather pointless. Yes, there will probably be sanctions of some kind, but you don't shut down an entire athletic program for the actions of a single individual. And you can't shut down a State University for the same reason.

    If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.

    daddyact

  • daddyact said...

    So in your opinion, PSU should have just shut down the football program, and indeed all their sports teams because of the actions of one individual?

    Or are you suggesting that firing that person was simply not enough?

    First of all that is a state university, just like Nebraska. This is not only likely to bankrupt the school, but also the state.

    Secondly, the man was retired from the football program in 1998. You cannot hold the university responsible for any of his actions since then. He wasn't an employee of the school any longer.

    Third, they had only the word of a single individual - one person - who saw something in the shower. the question that has never been answered is who was the other person? Was he a consenting adult, that is, over the age of 18. If so, then it's not necessarily a rape. The nature of the incident that spurred his retirement is not determined.

    So much of this took place when he was no longer under the purview of the University. Now, I think the University was wrong to try to over it up, but that's also a problem created by men who are either dead or have been fired/retired as well.

    Look, I get it. For many people this is a deeply personal issue. I understand. But wishing for the death penalty for issues that are criminal, not necessarily NCAA issues, is rather pointless. Yes, there will probably be sanctions of some kind, but you don't shut down an entire athletic program for the actions of a single individual. And you can't shut down a State University for the same reason.

    I'm kind of with DA here. I see this as much more of a legal issue then anything the NCAA could do. I do think a long probation might be in order, but another past that would be a little much in my mind.

    That being said, I think what happened there was terrible. And just because the NCAA won't be the one punishing Penn St does not mean that they wont be punished.

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  • daddyact said...

    So in your opinion, PSU should have just shut down the football program, and indeed all their sports teams because of the actions of one individual?

    Or are you suggesting that firing that person was simply not enough?

    First of all that is a state university, just like Nebraska. This is not only likely to bankrupt the school, but also the state.

    Secondly, the man was retired from the football program in 1998. You cannot hold the university responsible for any of his actions since then. He wasn't an employee of the school any longer.

    Third, they had only the word of a single individual - one person - who saw something in the shower. the question that has never been answered is who was the other person? Was he a consenting adult, that is, over the age of 18. If so, then it's not necessarily a rape. The nature of the incident that spurred his retirement is not determined.

    So much of this took place when he was no longer under the purview of the University. Now, I think the University was wrong to try to over it up, but that's also a problem created by men who are either dead or have been fired/retired as well.

    Look, I get it. For many people this is a deeply personal issue. I understand. But wishing for the death penalty for issues that are criminal, not necessarily NCAA issues, is rather pointless. Yes, there will probably be sanctions of some kind, but you don't shut down an entire athletic program for the actions of a single individual. And you can't shut down a State University for the same reason.

    It may have been the actions of one person doing the raping, but it was a more than that doing the cover up, which took place within the athletic department, which falls under NCAA jurisdiction. Yes I think the school should be shut down, and until all the facts are in the open I will hold my ground.

    At every stage of the investigation people have denied any truth of the matter at hand or their involvement in covering it up. Atleast until it is proven that they were involved in one way or another, in whig case they resign or step down from their current positions. Those aren't people that are remorseful for their actions, but people that don't care about what happened to the victims or the families of the victims. They only care about themselves and the longevity of their career, and doing whatever it takes to prolong the career.

    There is still so much we don't know, and no one but the individuals involved actually know how deep this actually went.

    I think paterno got off free. He died without ever having to own up to his part in this. I hope he is removed from the hall of fame.

    As for the people that covered it up, they should have the same punishments as sandusky, as their acts were just as heinous.

    WintersComing

  • bramaekers said...

    It may have been the actions of one person doing the raping, but it was a more than that doing the cover up, which took place within the athletic department, which falls under NCAA jurisdiction. Yes I think the school should be shut down, and until all the facts are in the open I will hold my ground.

    At every stage of the investigation people have denied any truth of the matter at hand or their involvement in covering it up. Atleast until it is proven that they were involved in one way or another, in whig case they resign or step down from their current positions. Those aren't people that are remorseful for their actions, but people that don't care about what happened to the victims or the families of the victims. They only care about themselves and the longevity of their career, and doing whatever it takes to prolong the career.

    There is still so much we don't know, and no one but the individuals involved actually know how deep this actually went.

    I think paterno got off free. He died without ever having to own up to his part in this. I hope he is removed from the hall of fame.

    As for the people that covered it up, they should have the same punishments as sandusky, as their acts were just as heinous.

    So if I witness a robbery and say nothing I'm just as guilty as the people perpetrating the robbery, and should receive the same punishment.

    That is not how our system of justice works. There are degrees when it comes to crime, and no, the acts of the people who said nothing about Sandusky's crimes are not just as guilty, nor were their omissions just as heinous.

    Again, you're talking about wanting to punish a dead man, and a bunch of people who have already been fired from their positions at the University. But that's not enough, let's make certain we punish the people who replaced them, as well as the student-athletes who currently attend the school.

    Paterno's dead, and this is what killed him more than anything else. I guess that's not punishment enough.

    I have no idea what you're suggesting when you comment that no one knows how deep this actually went. Besides the obvious tasteless joke I could make, what exactly are you implying?

    BTW, I can't think of a single instance in which anyone has ever been removed from the HOF of any sport. Can you?

    If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.

    daddyact

  • One big reason why OJ wasn't removed from the HOF is because the murders he was found guilty of (that is in civil, not criminal court) happened long after he was done playing football. What he did after football may be forever tainted in the eye of the public, but like it or not, it does not delete his football accomplishments from history. It's undeniably an odd situation though.

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