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nustudent said...
Here's what we know about the tight end position for 2013.
We only have 2 scholarship players on the roster NOW that are slated to be here. One of them hasn't gone through a practice yet. The other has been nothing more than a scout team guy. The rest are walk-ons who also haven't done anything of significance yet. Long has a handful of snaps, and that might be overestimating it.
Could some of these guys be good? Absolutely. In fact, I like Sutton...a lot. I also like Cotton's bloodlines. But that doesn't change the fact that there is little depth and the depth we do have is very very young and absolutely unproven at this point in time.
It's not slamming the coach, it's point out the obvious. And you can be real naive and narrow minded if you choose and call me a negative nellie. Of course, by doing it, you are choosing to ignore the positive things I said about the class as well.
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daddyact said...
Can't argue with that, although I seem to recall a whole bunch of fans who castigated the staff for the recruitment of both Ben and Jake. Both of whom have more than proved their capabilities.
why dismiss players because they're young? A lot of fans seem to think we should be playing more young players.
Just because a kid is young doesn't mean they can't contribute. How many actually expected Reed to emerge the way he did in 2010?
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In regards to the Cotton boys....the people who dismissed Ben are idiots. He was a legit prospect with legit BCS offers. Jake did not have those. Furthermore....don't jump off the deep end on him proving his capabilities. He hasn't done anything but look good in a spring game. (Do I need to remind you of your spring game/1 practice stance). Jake could and very well probably end up being a good player. But he aint done squat yet.
No one is dismissing anyone here because they are young. They are acknowledging that these guys haven't proven anything yet and there is no experience at the position. They aren't saying they can't be good. They are saying that they've shown nothing to prove that they are good. And once again...you are playing both sides of the fence on the youth issue. You are quick to excuse lots of the issues this year because of inexperience but here you are saying that we shouldn't dismiss players because they are young and that they can't contribute.
Young players can absolutely make an impact. But as of now...they are still unproven commodities. What if Sutton blows a knee in practice before 2013. You are left with nothing but walk-ons (and Barry will have very little playing time at that time) and freshmen at the position. Not a recipe for success. Heck...even with Sutton healthy...it's not a great situation.
As far as Reed, a good number of people knew how talented he was.
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klein12 said...
Good points... Man i miss Dreu Young. He could have been special at the TE position. We got to get out and get at least two TEs for next class... the pass catching time. Ben Cotton is a legit TE the other Cotton's the verdict is still out on... Honestly though I think Sam looks similar to Ben in his High School film, maybe not as big.
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In regards to the Cotton boys....the people who dismissed Ben are idiots. He was a legit prospect with legit BCS offers. Jake did not have those. Furthermore....don't jump off the deep end on him proving his capabilities. He hasn't done anything but look good in a spring game. (Do I need to remind you of your spring game/1 practice stance). Jake could and very well probably end up being a good player. But he aint done squat yet.
No one is dismissing anyone here because they are young. They are acknowledging that these guys haven't proven anything yet and there is no experience at the position. They aren't saying they can't be good. They are saying that they've shown nothing to prove that they are good. And once again...you are playing both sides of the fence on the youth issue. You are quick to excuse lots of the issues this year because of inexperience but here you are saying that we shouldn't dismiss players because they are young and that they can't contribute.
Young players can absolutely make an impact. But as of now...they are still unproven commodities. What if Sutton blows a knee in practice before 2013. You are left with nothing but walk-ons (and Barry will have very little playing time at that time) and freshmen at the position. Not a recipe for success. Heck...even with Sutton healthy...it's not a great situation.
As far as Reed, a good number of people knew how talented he was.
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Jake was the #1 option at RG throughout most of FALL camp as well. If he isn't nicked up he may have started. I'd say he was more than ready to prove himself and another off-season will only make him better.
What if? Hell, you can always say what if, about almost every position. Stuff happens and then you deal with it, but you don't necessarily want to anticipate it.
I'd prefer to see what we have, not what we don't have.
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