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  • Blitz said...

    I know I am.

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  • Blitz said...

    I know I am.

    At least you're honest, but let's blame them for something substantial. The 'play the freshmen' argument comes up every year and every year it proves to be a specious argument.

    I wonder sometimes what would be said by those critical of Pelini if he actually did play a large portion of freshmen, considering that would probably mean a losing season, enmity among the upperclassmen, and a truly divided team at war with itself (similar to last year).

    I think credit should go to this staff for prepping these young players in game time situations. They may not play all that much this year, but they will be more prepared to play solid, productive minutes next year.

    Any time you are playing more than a couple of frosh, you're basically admitting that you have no upperclassmen that can play whatever position they're filling.

    Fact is, we're pretty young already.

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  • Bills2 said...

    Just more mishandlinges by Bo's staff. Anyone surprised

    MORE mishandlings? Which other players have been mishandled in the past, in your opinion?

    Just more reasons to criticize that have absolutely nothing to do with the game itself?

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  • daddyact said...

    Any time you are playing more than a couple of frosh, you're basically admitting that you have no upperclassmen that can play whatever position they're filling.

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    Maybe we don't shrug

    I don't see in playing an upperclassmen when he can't play. Just because he is an upperclassmen. I would rather a young guy make a mistake, than an upperclassmen just because he is an upperclassmen. Or he shows the coach more respect than the young guy. Or because the coach feels he should be loyal to a guy that has tried harder, but his hardest is not better than the young guy.

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  • daddyact said...

    MORE mishandlings? Which other players have been mishandled in the past, in your opinion?

    Just more reasons to criticize that have absolutely nothing to do with the game itself?

    Poster boy for mishandled Pelini players: Eric Martin.

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  • Is the youth really gonna matter if it's not being developed? If they're still practicing that badly to the point they can't earn a little more PT towards the end of the season I'd say development isn't come along. Why else is Rex out there hobbling around yesterday and running ineffectively with 3 ballyhooed RBs watching from the sideline? And what's the deal with Jamal? Josh stated something about his ego. Has this ego been there all year and just now it's being dealt with? Or did this ego just develop? And I'm sure Jamal isn't the only player on the team with an ego. Those are my beefs. People can talk about youth all they want. But it's pointless if doesn't get developed. And all the talent in the world won't matter if Bo can't starting getting these kids ready to play every single week of the season. The losing every year at home to unranked opponent has to end.

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  • Blitz said...

    Is the youth really gonna matter if it's not being developed? If they're still practicing that badly to the point they can't earn a little more PT towards the end of the season I'd say development isn't come along. Why else is Rex out there hobbling around yesterday and running ineffectively with 3 ballyhooed RBs watching from the sideline? And what's the deal with Jamal? Josh stated something about his ego. Has this ego been there all year and just now it's being dealt with? Or did this ego just develop? And I'm sure Jamal isn't the only player on the team with an ego. Those are my beefs. People can talk about youth all they want. But it's pointless if doesn't get developed. And all the talent in the world won't matter if Bo can't starting getting these kids ready to play every single week of the season. The losing every year at home to unranked opponent has to end.

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  • Humble-Warrior said...

    Maybe we don't shrug

    I don't see in playing an upperclassmen when he can't play. Just because he is an upperclassmen. I would rather a young guy make a mistake, than an upperclassmen just because he is an upperclassmen. Or he shows the coach more respect than the young guy. Or because the coach feels he should be loyal to a guy that has tried harder, but his hardest is not better than the young guy.

    Actually, the reason they're not starting is because we do have players with more experience, with the possible exception of RB.

    Jones is a better player with more experience, period.

    Marlowe, Bell, Q, and Kinnie are more experienced. They may not have more natural talent, but I'd say they're better players at this point in time.

    We could use a reliable second option at RB, but until someone emerges, I'd rather see all three frosh get opportunities when they can.

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  • BornToBeRed said...

    Poster boy for mishandled Pelini players: Eric Martin.

    I can see your point, but frankly, where should he be or have been playing? He isn't the answer at OLB, and he's a bit undersized at DE. That being said, he's played extensively the past few games, and has played quite a bit since he's been here.

    Sometimes it's just difficult to figure out where a player can contribute the most. Tey are utilizing him right now to his best advantage, iyam.

    I wouldn't say that he's been wasted.

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  • daddyact said...

    Actually, the reason they're not starting is because we do have players with more experience, with the possible exception of RB.

    Jones is a better player with more experience, period.

    Marlowe, Bell, Q, and Kinnie are more experienced. They may not have more natural talent, but I'd say they're better players at this point in time.

    We could use a reliable second option at RB, but until someone emerges, I'd rather see all three frosh get opportunities when they can.

    Solid points.

    What about defensively?

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  • Blitz said...

    Is the youth really gonna matter if it's not being developed? If they're still practicing that badly to the point they can't earn a little more PT towards the end of the season I'd say development isn't come along. Why else is Rex out there hobbling around yesterday and running ineffectively with 3 ballyhooed RBs watching from the sideline? And what's the deal with Jamal? Josh stated something about his ego. Has this ego been there all year and just now it's being dealt with? Or did this ego just develop? And I'm sure Jamal isn't the only player on the team with an ego. Those are my beefs. People can talk about youth all they want. But it's pointless if doesn't get developed. And all the talent in the world won't matter if Bo can't starting getting these kids ready to play every single week of the season. The losing every year at home to unranked opponent has to end.

    How do you know it's not being developed?

    They are practicing with the varsity instead of languishing on the scout team. They are going up against the first and second team players every day.

    That IS part of developing players.

    Losses happen, and frankly, these are two separate issues.

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  • daddyact said...

    How do you know it's not being developed?

    They are practicing with the varsity instead of languishing on the scout team. They are going up against the first and second team players every day.

    That IS part of developing players.

    Losses happen, and frankly, these are two separate issues.

    But they're still not getting into games. It at least gives off the impression that it's not being developed. Otherwise, Rex would get a few breaks.

    Maybe Aaron or Braylon or Ameer could've provided a much needed spark to the offense yesterday. We'll never know though.

    And it looked like the defensive talent isn't being developed too well yesterday. No pressure on the QB. We're still afraid to blitz. Evans got abused. Not to mention they couldn't step up at the most opportune time. After we pulled within 21-18, the D blew a golden opportunity to get the ball back and get a hot handed Taylor back in the game with a chance to take the lead. Instead, Northwestern literally ran the ball down our throat, chewed up clock and sealed the deal. Why? Because the D was worn down because we're not developing the players to provide legitimate depth and rotation.

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  • Blitz said...

    I know I am.

    "Perhaps certain individuals are simply looking for reasons to criticize the coaches." - daddyact

    "I know I am." - Blitz

    roflmao

    It's what you live for, right?

    This post was edited by k9_r on 11/6/2011 at 3:31 PM

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  • k9_r said...

    "Perhaps certain individuals are simply looking for reasons to criticize the coaches." - daddyact

    "I know I am." - Blitz

    roflmao

    It's what you live for, right?

    I couldn't have gotten my slightly overweight ass outta bed without having it to look forward to, k9. biggrin

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  • After seeing how worn down Burkhead was I would be shocked if we didn't see Green more in the next three games. Burkhead is great but if he isn't 100% Green is a better option.

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  • ThrowinBonez said...

    After seeing how worn down Burkhead was I would be shocked if we didn't see Green more in the next three games. Burkhead is great but if he isn't 100% Green is a better option.

    I'm SHOCKED that non-Rex backs only got one carry yesterday. After last week's 35 carry demand, I would have expected Beck to game plan for less carries to Rex. Frankly, I'm disappointed.

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  • daddyact said...

    MORE mishandlings? Which other players have been mishandled in the past, in your opinion?

    Just more reasons to criticize that have absolutely nothing to do with the game itself?

    Are you serious? Nothing to do with the game. So if Aaron Green gets carries... Rex isn't as tired or worn down. If We have a play maker like Jamal on the field who knows what he breaks... even if its just Returns. Maybe if we actually SUBED in players in the Oline and at the DE spots we might be more fresh and be able to block.

    Seriously DA, you can you honestly say personal decisions have no effect on games?

    And i've give you an example. Bo does not have the ability to build up Taylor to the media with out throwing Brion under the bus. Bo just can't do it. Look up some of the quote from Bo about the two.

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  • Bills2 said...

    Are you serious? Nothing to do with the game. So if Aaron Green gets carries... Rex isn't as tired or worn down. If We have a play maker like Jamal on the field who knows what he breaks... even if its just Returns. Maybe if we actually SUBED in players in the Oline and at the DE spots we might be more fresh and be able to block.

    Seriously DA, you can you honestly say personal decisions have no effect on games?

    And i've give you an example. Bo does not have the ability to build up Taylor to the media with out throwing Brion under the bus. Bo just can't do it. Look up some of the quote from Bo about the two.

    Good post Bills2 thumbsup

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  • Blitz said...

    But they're still not getting into games. It at least gives off the impression that it's not being developed. Otherwise, Rex would get a few breaks.

    Maybe Aaron or Braylon or Ameer could've provided a much needed spark to the offense yesterday. We'll never know though.

    And it looked like the defensive talent isn't being developed too well yesterday. No pressure on the QB. We're still afraid to blitz. Evans got abused. Not to mention they couldn't step up at the most opportune time. After we pulled within 21-18, the D blew a golden opportunity to get the ball back and get a hot handed Taylor back in the game with a chance to take the lead. Instead, Northwestern literally ran the ball down our throat, chewed up clock and sealed the deal. Why? Because the D was worn down because we're not developing the players to provide legitimate depth and rotation.

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  • Blitz said...

    But they're still not getting into games. It at least gives off the impression that it's not being developed. Otherwise, Rex would get a few breaks.

    Maybe Aaron or Braylon or Ameer could've provided a much needed spark to the offense yesterday. We'll never know though.

    And it looked like the defensive talent isn't being developed too well yesterday. No pressure on the QB. We're still afraid to blitz. Evans got abused. Not to mention they couldn't step up at the most opportune time. After we pulled within 21-18, the D blew a golden opportunity to get the ball back and get a hot handed Taylor back in the game with a chance to take the lead. Instead, Northwestern literally ran the ball down our throat, chewed up clock and sealed the deal. Why? Because the D was worn down because we're not developing the players to provide legitimate depth and rotation.

    Yes, and generally in tough, close games your starters play most of the way.

    Wasn't going to happen last week, even though some thought is should have, and it wasn't going to happen while they were behind yesterday.

    Their are reasons why certain players may not get the chance to play, unless necessary. There are certainly things that happen in practice. The coaches evaluate these kids every day, and while I can understand that some of the frosh may be frustrated, they are not in the best position to determine who earned the start that week. They have a bias.

    Should you risk putting a sub out there when you have a Rex Burkhead?????????

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  • Blitz said...

    But they're still not getting into games. It at least gives off the impression that it's not being developed. Otherwise, Rex would get a few breaks.

    Maybe Aaron or Braylon or Ameer could've provided a much needed spark to the offense yesterday. We'll never know though.

    And it looked like the defensive talent isn't being developed too well yesterday. No pressure on the QB. We're still afraid to blitz. Evans got abused. Not to mention they couldn't step up at the most opportune time. After we pulled within 21-18, the D blew a golden opportunity to get the ball back and get a hot handed Taylor back in the game with a chance to take the lead. Instead, Northwestern literally ran the ball down our throat, chewed up clock and sealed the deal. Why? Because the D was worn down because we're not developing the players to provide legitimate depth and rotation.

    One more thing.

    The defense wore down because we only had two defensive tackles yesterday. Happens when you lose three of them to injury.

    If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.

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  • Bills2 said...

    Are you serious? Nothing to do with the game. So if Aaron Green gets carries... Rex isn't as tired or worn down. If We have a play maker like Jamal on the field who knows what he breaks... even if its just Returns. Maybe if we actually SUBED in players in the Oline and at the DE spots we might be more fresh and be able to block.

    Seriously DA, you can you honestly say personal decisions have no effect on games?

    And i've give you an example. Bo does not have the ability to build up Taylor to the media with out throwing Brion under the bus. Bo just can't do it. Look up some of the quote from Bo about the two.

    I've seen them, and all he has ever said is that Brion is far behind Taylor right now.

    It's an honest answer. What would you rather have him say?

    If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.

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  • bigchew187 said...

    I don't think playing these guys would have made a difference in this game.

    Playing Moore couldn't have hurt given how poorly the OL was playing as a whole.

    seanstevens81950

  • k9_r said...

    Pretty sure this happened to both Kenny Bell and Quincy Enunwa last year. Not saying it's good or even OK - just saying it happens.

    Bell redshirted last year, but you're right about Quincy.

    seanstevens81950

  • Blitz said...

    Not to mention they couldn't step up at the most opportune time. After we pulled within 21-18, the D blew a golden opportunity to get the ball back and get a hot handed Taylor back in the game with a chance to take the lead. Instead, Northwestern literally ran the ball down our throat, chewed up clock and sealed the deal. Why? Because the D was worn down because we're not developing the players to provide legitimate depth and rotation.

    One of my biggest questions, and the one my 14-year-old son kept asking during the game, was why Compton wasn't playing more. It was obvious that Thorell wasn't playing well, and NW was just running the ball at will with NU in the dime... so why not throw Compton back in there and go nickel? He couldn't have covered any worse that Thorell did, that's for damned sure!frustrated

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