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Is Nebraska being overlooked?

  • Kevin Ryan said...

    Not for ahwile.

    Hopefully he learns his lesson this time.

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  • Bills2 said...

    I'm glad I was able to resist the urge to come in this thread once it turned south. Sorry to all the MSU fans that came here for a good debate and didnt get one.

    I agree. Rocky always comes fully loaded. He's a football knowledge BEAST!!!

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  • Blitz said...

    I agree. Rocky always comes fully loaded. He's a football knowledge BEAST!!!

    my posts always hit the bottom of the page. 247 is trying to hold me down!

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  • Rocky was a good chat for sure. He looks behind the jersey numbers. I like that.

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  • SpartanRocky said...

    Everyone's schedule gets easier in '13 when you consider PSU is about to fall off a cliff.

    Both MSU and Nebraska add IL and Purdue instead of tOSU and Wisconsin. With PSU being crap, Nebraska's cross-over game gives them 3 mediocre Leaders opponent. MSU keeps IU also giving them 3 weak opponents.

    This is really where Michigan's protected rivalry with tOSU comes back to bite them. They have PSU and IU, 2 games they should win, but tOSU in year 2 of Urban Meyer should be pretty darn good. Whereas I'd expect Nebraska and MSU to sweep their Leaders opponents, UM could well go 2-1. That gives MSU - Nebraska essentially a leg up on the Wolverines.

    Same thing in '14.

    I have to say, I do like divisional play. Makes the schedules VERY interesting.

    for the record, sparty i liked your thoughts and thought you brought some good stuff to the table.
    thanks

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  • Blitz said...

    Hopefully he learns his lesson this time.

    Unfortunately, some people simply do not learn.

    DA's made a life out of being a message board bully. Probably why he's been kicked off more boards than most of us ever belonged to.

    It's the mods call, obviously, but anyone thinking that DA will be a changed man when he comes back is a bit naive.

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  • Scooby said...

    for the record, sparty i liked your thoughts and thought you brought some good stuff to the table. thanks

    What's with the past-tense?!?! I'm down to keep this party rolling panicpanicpanic

    Here's what I'd like to know about Nebraska:

    1) With the new DL coach, are your DTs still going to both be heads up on the OGs playing 2-gaps? Was that just for the "Peso"?

    2) Why isn't Baker Steinkuhler an OT? (I'm more interested to know why he was moved to the DL early in his career)

    3) Tweaks to Tim Beck's O: Are you guys looking at some I-formation runs and getting away a bit from the option . . . or committing to a full option O?

    4) What's up with the JUCO recruiting? Not a ton of Big 10 teams bring in more than 1 JUCO/year save for the Minnesota's and IU's of the conference. Obviously NU's JUCOs are on a whole different level, but is this something that's being done to just address specific areas in the short term, or is this a major part of your recruiting strategy?

    5) What's the OL and DL depth look like? # of starts for the back-ups and classes are appreciated (RS Soph / true SR, etc.)

    6) Any injury concerns headed into fall camp?

    I'm glad to answer any and all questions about MSU; schemes, personnel, whatever you want to know. Thanks again for letting me post on here; BYC is good people.

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    What's with the past-tense?!?! I'm down to keep this party rolling

    Here's what I'd like to know about Nebraska:

    1) With the new DL coach, are your DTs still going to both be heads up on the OGs playing 2-gaps? Was that just for the "Peso"?

    2) Why isn't Baker Steinkuhler an OT? (I'm more interested to know why he was moved to the DL early in his career)

    3) Tweaks to Tim Beck's O: Are you guys looking at some I-formation runs and getting away a bit from the option . . . or committing to a full option O?

    4) What's up with the JUCO recruiting? Not a ton of Big 10 teams bring in more than 1 JUCO/year save for the Minnesota's and IU's of the conference. Obviously NU's JUCOs are on a whole different level, but is this something that's being done to just address specific areas in the short term, or is this a major part of your recruiting strategy?

    5) What's the OL and DL depth look like? # of starts for the back-ups and classes are appreciated (RS Soph / true SR, etc.)

    6) Any injury concerns headed into fall camp?

    I'm glad to answer any and all questions about MSU; schemes, personnel, whatever you want to know. Thanks again for letting me post on here; BYC is good people.

    1) With the new DL coach, are your DTs still going to both be heads up on the OGs playing 2-gaps? Was that just for the "Peso"?

    -Likely, yes

    2) Why isn't Baker Steinkuhler an OT? (I'm more interested to know why he was moved to the DL early in his career)

    -OT is probably a better position for him, but we were razor thin at DT when Bo started and we needed him more at DT than at OT then. He's also a better player than most give him credit for at DT.

    3) Tweaks to Tim Beck's O: Are you guys looking at some I-formation runs and getting away a bit from the option . . . or committing to a full option O?

    -Option will be a part of it, but it will not be a full option offense.

    4) What's up with the JUCO recruiting? Not a ton of Big 10 teams bring in more than 1 JUCO/year save for the Minnesota's and IU's of the conference. Obviously NU's JUCOs are on a whole different level, but is this something that's being done to just address specific areas in the short term, or is this a major part of your recruiting strategy?

    -It's both. It's an advantage for us and area we need to hit since we don't have the in-state population base to pluck. It is also a way to fill holes. We don't take a lot....we've been averaging 2-3 a year under Bo.

    5) What's the OL and DL depth look like? # of starts for the back-ups and classes are appreciated (RS Soph / true SR, etc.)

    We have some decent young OL in the program. DL is more up in the air. Not much talent at DE outside of our upperclassmen in the 2-deep. DT is a huge question mark behind our starters

    6) Any injury concerns headed into fall camp?

    DT. Healthy everywhere else. Guys listed from 2-5 on our depth chart missed spring practice. Some will be ready to go....others will still linger

    nustudent

  • nustudent said...

    1) With the new DL coach, are your DTs still going to both be heads up on the OGs playing 2-gaps? Was that just for the "Peso"?

    -Likely, yes

    2) Why isn't Baker Steinkuhler an OT? (I'm more interested to know why he was moved to the DL early in his career)

    -OT is probably a better position for him, but we were razor thin at DT when Bo started and we needed him more at DT than at OT then. He's also a better player than most give him credit for at DT.

    3) Tweaks to Tim Beck's O: Are you guys looking at some I-formation runs and getting away a bit from the option . . . or committing to a full option O?

    -Option will be a part of it, but it will not be a full option offense.

    4) What's up with the JUCO recruiting? Not a ton of Big 10 teams bring in more than 1 JUCO/year save for the Minnesota's and IU's of the conference. Obviously NU's JUCOs are on a whole different level, but is this something that's being done to just address specific areas in the short term, or is this a major part of your recruiting strategy?

    -It's both. It's an advantage for us and area we need to hit since we don't have the in-state population base to pluck. It is also a way to fill holes. We don't take a lot....we've been averaging 2-3 a year under Bo.

    5) What's the OL and DL depth look like? # of starts for the back-ups and classes are appreciated (RS Soph / true SR, etc.)

    We have some decent young OL in the program. DL is more up in the air. Not much talent at DE outside of our upperclassmen in the 2-deep. DT is a huge question mark behind our starters

    6) Any injury concerns headed into fall camp?

    DT. Healthy everywhere else. Guys listed from 2-5 on our depth chart missed spring practice. Some will be ready to go....others will still linger

    1) no, we will still play mostly 2 gap. Bo likes it.

    2) we needed help at DT, but he would have been a star a LT, instead of just a good DT.

    3) option will be a part of our offense, especially since we have a running QB.

    4) We need jucos because of our location. We need that talent to take us to the top, because usually Location isn't a factor. They are older, and usually don't go to juco in the same area. I prefer 3-5 jucos in our class, depending on the talent.

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  • Hey all, with DA gone for a little--Let's stop talking about him. He can't reply, and we've got a decent topic at hand. Appreciate it.

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  • nustudent said...

    1) With the new DL coach, are your DTs still going to both be heads up on the OGs playing 2-gaps? Was that just for the "Peso"?

    -Likely, yes

    2) Why isn't Baker Steinkuhler an OT? (I'm more interested to know why he was moved to the DL early in his career)

    -OT is probably a better position for him, but we were razor thin at DT when Bo started and we needed him more at DT than at OT then. He's also a better player than most give him credit for at DT.

    3) Tweaks to Tim Beck's O: Are you guys looking at some I-formation runs and getting away a bit from the option . . . or committing to a full option O?

    -Option will be a part of it, but it will not be a full option offense.

    4) What's up with the JUCO recruiting? Not a ton of Big 10 teams bring in more than 1 JUCO/year save for the Minnesota's and IU's of the conference. Obviously NU's JUCOs are on a whole different level, but is this something that's being done to just address specific areas in the short term, or is this a major part of your recruiting strategy?

    -It's both. It's an advantage for us and area we need to hit since we don't have the in-state population base to pluck. It is also a way to fill holes. We don't take a lot....we've been averaging 2-3 a year under Bo.

    5) What's the OL and DL depth look like? # of starts for the back-ups and classes are appreciated (RS Soph / true SR, etc.)

    We have some decent young OL in the program. DL is more up in the air. Not much talent at DE outside of our upperclassmen in the 2-deep. DT is a huge question mark behind our starters

    6) Any injury concerns headed into fall camp?

    DT. Healthy everywhere else. Guys listed from 2-5 on our depth chart missed spring practice. Some will be ready to go....others will still linger

    Thanks for the responses. Some follow-ups . . .

    1. Steinkuhler's a SR, right? He's a solid player and a good DT, too bad we won't get to see what he could have done on the OL.

    2. Kind of figured you'd keep some of the option. I'd expect Abdullah to be a nice compliment to Burkhead. You guys could very well lead the league in rushing. Not thrilled that you have a home-run threat like Abdullah in your backfield, but hey, you're Nebraska.

    3. JUCO stuff is interesting. I know there are a lot of Junior Colleges in Kansas and the area that probably makes it easier to recruit kids to Nebraska. I wonder if you guys tone down the JUCO recruiting if/when you break into Illinois more.

    4. What happened to the DTs? I know Steinkuhler and Rome . . . who's behind them? Same with Meredith and Ankrah (sp?), what's behind them?

    5. Any questions on MSU?

    Michigan State does not and will not run the 3-4 defense.

    SpartanRocky

  • SpartanRocky said...

    Thanks for the responses. Some follow-ups . . .

    1. Steinkuhler's a SR, right? He's a solid player and a good DT, too bad we won't get to see what he could have done on the OL.

    2. Kind of figured you'd keep some of the option. I'd expect Abdullah to be a nice compliment to Burkhead. You guys could very well lead the league in rushing. Not thrilled that you have a home-run threat like Abdullah in your backfield, but hey, you're Nebraska.

    3. JUCO stuff is interesting. I know there are a lot of Junior Colleges in Kansas and the area that probably makes it easier to recruit kids to Nebraska. I wonder if you guys tone down the JUCO recruiting if/when you break into Illinois more.

    4. What happened to the DTs? I know Steinkuhler and Rome . . . who's behind them? Same with Meredith and Ankrah (sp?), what's behind them?

    5. Any questions on MSU?

    1. Yep
    2. Keep an eye on Braylon Heard as well.
    3. I doubt it/hope not. I think it is a tremendous untapped resource so long as we are smart about it
    4. Kevin Williams has a ton of potential but blew out his knee last fall. He's close to being back but will still be a RS frosh coming off a knee injury. Thad Randle was a RS Soph last year and blew out his knee shortly after the NU-MSU game last year. He's a reserve but is there for depth. Jay Guy (RS-Frosh) and Todd Peat (True frosh last year) were also plagued with nagging injuries. Williams, Rome, Randle and Peat were all out for spring ball.
    5. Will you be running the same offense or will there be specific intent to move Hendrix around since he is more mobile.

    nustudent

  • Thanks for the quality input and discussion everyone. Rocky, the Yard appreciates your knowledge and insight.

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  • nustudent said...

    5. Will you be running the same offense or will there be specific intent to move Hendrix around since he is more mobile.

    Maxwell nerd

    Thats Good D

  • nustudent said...

    1. Yep 2. Keep an eye on Braylon Heard as well. 3. I doubt it/hope not. I think it is a tremendous untapped resource so long as we are smart about it 4. Kevin Williams has a ton of potential but blew out his knee last fall. He's close to being back but will still be a RS frosh coming off a knee injury. Thad Randle was a RS Soph last year and blew out his knee shortly after the NU-MSU game last year. He's a reserve but is there for depth. Jay Guy (RS-Frosh) and Todd Peat (True frosh last year) were also plagued with nagging injuries. Williams, Rome, Randle and Peat were all out for spring ball. 5. Will you be running the same offense or will there be specific intent to move Hendrix around since he is more mobile.

    Thanks for the updates; hope your young DTs are o.k. for the fall. That would be rough if you only had 3-4 healthy DTs on the roster for the season.

    As for MSU, Andrew Maxwell is a better runner than Cousins, the same way molasses at 34 degrees flows faster than molasses at 33 degrees. Ok, he's a little faster than that (and a state high-jump champ), but MSU isn't expecting Denard Robinson or even Russell Wilson. If he can provide positive rush yardage on the year (as in his scrambling >> sack yardage . . . like + 39 yards total for +3 yards/game) MSU would be thrilled. I believe MSU and Iowa were the only teams in the conference to get negative rush yards from their QBs . . . and MSU only gave up 16 sacks all of last year.

    Totally understand why you put "Hendrix" in there; Andrew Hendrix is in the mix for the ND starting QB job and he IS a mobile QB.

    Anyways, MSU's O won't change much regarding Maxwell's legs . . . but his arm could shift things a bit. He's a little bigger and stronger than Cousins and the current WRs are faster than last year's group (Seriously. Cunningham was reliable but about a 4.5 guy, Nichol was a 4.55 type and Martin the only 4.4 option), though whether or not they have the hands and route-running of their predecessors (much more important than straight line speed) remains to be seen. Where I'm going with this is that MSU was not a particularly strong vertical passing team last year, and that may change.

    MSU's favorite routes last year were bubbles screens and slants. Nothing wrong with those, but those are short routes. The longer TE seam route was abandoned due to an injury to the best receiving TE (Dion Sims, who's back this year), and you didn't see a ton of the post/corner/fly routes that come with a big play pro-style O. That, IMHO, had a lot to do with the fact that MSU really only had 1 fast WR (Martin), who was also the end-around specialist, bubble-screen guy, wildcat QB, punt returner and waterboy. Ok, the last one isn't true, but the point remains; he was so busy with other jobs that he couldn't just be a deep threat. His stats reflected that: 66 catches . . . but just 777 yards, for a relatively pedestrian 11.7 yards per catch. In short, he was catching a lot of short passes and getting some decent yards after the catch. Martin's longest TD of the year came against Indiana, where he caught a 12 yard pass on the sideline, made a defender miss, and raced into the endzone (47 yards).

    Ahh, but you say BJ Cunningham averaged 16.5 yards/catch, clearly they went deep to him! Yes . . . but usually on broken or trick plays. Other than a 54 yard bomb against hapless central Michigan, Cunningham's big plays came on either trick/busted plays or yards after the catch. He had a 63 yard TD against Indiana that came on a faked end around. . . which was then faked into a handoff (yes, a double play-action fake, what can I say, it was IU at home on Senior day? Joel Foreman, MSU's LG got a carry in that game lol) . . . and Cunningham slipped behind the D which came up to stop either the end around or the faked draw. Easy TD.

    Against Wisconsin the first time around, Cunningham averaged 17 yards/catch, including a 35 yard TD. Great, right? Well, that play was on 4th and 3 (or 6 . . . I can't remember) and the pass was to Cunningham about 12 yards downfield. Into triple coverage. Dangerous throw, but the Badgers knocked each other off, and LB Mike Taylor slid off Cunningham, who ran into the EZ. Great play, but hardly a deep pass. In the CCG, Cunningham had TD catches of 30 and 44 yards. The 30 yard TD was off of a faked pitch to Bell on 4th and 1; Cousins ran a bootleg and Cunningham had a step on his man. The 44 yarder was the result of a 6 yard crossing route where Cunningham just ran faster than WI's DBs all the way to the EZ. Again, WI's DBs were not fast last year.

    In short, though MSU had some "big" pass plays last year, the ball didn't travel that far in the air. In fact, Nebraska picked off a slant on MSU's first drive in Lincoln (after 2 straight first downs due to Bell's running, still mad at the OC for going away from that) and all the other deep passes were batted away. State didn't have the raw athletic talent at WR last year to run Coach Roushar's preferred routes; the fly, post and corner routes. You just didn't see an MSU receiver streaking down the sidelines and catch the ball in stride. That's something that wasn't part of the offense last year, but should see greater play this season.

    Sorry for the giant history-laden post. Basically MSU is going to try and stretch the field this year with younger, but faster, receivers.

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    SpartanRocky

  • Thats Good D

  • That's Good D! said...

    Bump

    Hey, TGD!

    Well, as always, we have Husker fans that are already dismissing Taylor's performance...otoh, most of us see a committed athlete and student of the game coming into his own, i.e., Taylor probably had his best game since his injury in the 2nd quarter of the Mizzou game, 2010.

    Biggest question going into this game was at center. Justin Jackson is a beast, and now we know he's also a B1G quality center. The OL is the best we've seen in a very long time...depth is the question. This team can score 40 points on anyone...the question is on defense.

    The front seven is where the Huskers pin their hopes on the B1G Championship. The UCLA game is a very good tune-up for Denard and Braxton.

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  • That's Good D! said...

    Bump

    Are you trying to get DA banned again.

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  • Landohusker said...

    Are you trying to get DA banned again.

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    I think DA can accomplish that with very little help from any of us. It's kind of in his genes.

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  • Now that a game has been played I can say we are overlooked in comparison to msu

    mebeinme0831

  • mebeinme0831 said...

    Now that a game has been played I can say we are overlooked in comparison to msu

    In what way? I thought MSU dominated Boise. 460+ yardage to Boise's 206. MSU allowed 3 points on offense to Boise. Bell rushed for over 200 yards. 2/3 of Maxwell's picks were due to receivers tipping easy catches right to the defense. The score was close, but the teams were not.

    Right now I think MSU is the best in the B1G, followed directly by Nebraska.

    Thats Good D

  • That's Good D! said...

    In what way? I thought MSU dominated Boise. 460+ yardage to Boise's 206. MSU allowed 3 points on offense to Boise. Bell rushed for over 200 yards. 2/3 of Maxwell's picks were due to receivers tipping easy catches right to the defense. The score was close, but the teams were not.

    Right now I think MSU is the best in the B1G, followed directly by Nebraska.

    I'm sure that the Huskers already have some natural rivalries in their division, MSU is smarting from last year's game with the Huskers, but we have to beat them and Michigan both, then beat the rest of the division to get where the Huskers intend to go...the title game. If MSU cannot develop a passing game, they won't be able to be one dimensional and beat Nebraska.

    This post was edited by Zonie87 on 9/3/2012 at 12:43 PM

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  • That's Good D! said...

    In what way? I thought MSU dominated Boise. 460+ yardage to Boise's 206. MSU allowed 3 points on offense to Boise. Bell rushed for over 200 yards. 2/3 of Maxwell's picks were due to receivers tipping easy catches right to the defense. The score was close, but the teams were not.

    Right now I think MSU is the best in the B1G, followed directly by Nebraska.

    Boise isn't good and we had 632 yards of offense. as far as tip passes if you hit the receivers in the numbers then that doesn't happen ( not putting all the blame on Maxwell but he gets no free pass either). one of my favorite quotes are " numbers don't lie, but they don't tell the whole story" so with le'veon 244 yards (which i'm not taking away from him) they only won by three so the teams are close. also as you'll find out soon if bell carries the ball anywhere close to that all season then good luck keeping him healthy.

    mebeinme0831

  • mebeinme0831 said...

    Boise isn't good and we had 632 yards of offense. as far as tip passes if you hit the receivers in the numbers then that doesn't happen ( not putting all the blame on Maxwell but he gets no free pass either). one of my favorite quotes are " numbers don't lie, but they don't tell the whole story" so with le'veon 244 yards (which i'm not taking away from him) they only won by three so the teams are close. also as you'll find out soon if bell carries the ball anywhere close to that all season then good luck keeping him healthy.

    headslap

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  • TheUnknownFan said...

    I think DA can accomplish that with very little help from any of us. It's kind of in his genes.

    I have to remind myself not to post when I'm under the influence. My natural sarcasm always seems to emerge.

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