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  • Kane Diggity said...

    Some really great points made on this thread, I personally, am glad to see that we are not all asking for Bo's whistle just yet. I also understand those that feel angst toward the current staff, especially after such a heartbreaking loss, which is what every loss is when you are a Husker fan. Trust that it took me until today to even want to discuss Husker football, I was a bit "anger-drunk" post Rosepocalypse, F*** this, F*** that, F*** you, F*** the next person who texts me about this loss like I didn't watch the F***ing game! Again, I was "anger-drunk" so I may have asked for Bo's head Saturday night or cursed my parents parents for being born a Husker fan, but today is new day and the hangover is almost gone, almost.

    I don't want Pelini fired. It is going to take some time and dedication to get the program back to greatness, so we need to give Bo some time. Haven't we learned our lesson to be patient with Tom Osborne, from Tom Osborne himself? If Tom believes Bo is the guy then who the hell are any of us to question, right? As others stated look how long it took Osborne to get it done, with the landscape today shouldn't we have a little more patience, especially with a first time coach? I surely don't want to become Notre Dame, and chase a golden gofer when we potentially have one in the lawn clawing his way up. We are Nebraska so let's stay classy and respect the process to become great as we expect players to do the same.

    Plus we can't keep comparing other coaches to Bo, it isn't fair and basically any example could be picked apart. Saban did his first head coaching stint in the Big Ten, and resigned after 4 years of being anything but great, would anyone question his aptitude? Took Mack Brown eight seasons for a NC and he has an endless supply of top recruits. I would rather have a coach come here and put in his leg work, even suffer a bit, and then make it to the top, it shows resolve and dedication. A coach can leave us too, and I would rather not see what Bo could do if he was given the reigns to Georgia or Arkansas, would you? Don't kid yourself, Bo's phone would ring and could be ringing now...

    I will be back at a later date when i have more UV's to get this...

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  • Landohusker said...

    For a Dc position.

    Lando, Lando, Lando, I'm thinking that your Tums and Rolaids consumption would diminish if you would just take a pass instead of replying to every little provocation.

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  • Kane Diggity said...

    Some really great points made on this thread, I personally, am glad to see that we are not all asking for Bo's whistle just yet. I also understand those that feel angst toward the current staff, especially after such a heartbreaking loss, which is what every loss is when you are a Husker fan. Trust that it took me until today to even want to discuss Husker football, I was a bit "anger-drunk" post Rosepocalypse, F*** this, F*** that, F*** you, F*** the next person who texts me about this loss like I didn't watch the F***ing game! Again, I was "anger-drunk" so I may have asked for Bo's head Saturday night or cursed my parents parents for being born a Husker fan, but today is new day and the hangover is almost gone, almost.

    I don't want Pelini fired. It is going to take some time and dedication to get the program back to greatness, so we need to give Bo some time. Haven't we learned our lesson to be patient with Tom Osborne, from Tom Osborne himself? If Tom believes Bo is the guy then who the hell are any of us to question, right? As others stated look how long it took Osborne to get it done, with the landscape today shouldn't we have a little more patience, especially with a first time coach? I surely don't want to become Notre Dame, and chase a golden gofer when we potentially have one in the lawn clawing his way up. We are Nebraska so let's stay classy and respect the process to become great as we expect players to do the same.

    Plus we can't keep comparing other coaches to Bo, it isn't fair and basically any example could be picked apart. Saban did his first head coaching stint in the Big Ten, and resigned after 4 years of being anything but great, would anyone question his aptitude? Took Mack Brown eight seasons for a NC and he has an endless supply of top recruits. I would rather have a coach come here and put in his leg work, even suffer a bit, and then make it to the top, it shows resolve and dedication. A coach can leave us too, and I would rather not see what Bo could do if he was given the reigns to Georgia or Arkansas, would you? Don't kid yourself, Bo's phone would ring and could be ringing now...

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  • daddyact said...

    I see, because I don't equate the size of a paycheck to actual performance by 19-20 year old college students it's impossible for me to have a rational conversation with you?

    I think you're right. It would be pointless.

    Bo Pelini makes that amount of money to win -- FAIL, to teach kids how to be men and how to play football -- QUESTIONABLE, to represent the program like a mature adult -- FAIL FAIL. To win games against quality teams -- FAIL FAIL? Ask Bo about his golf game, ask BO what he really thinks of the fans here, ask Bo what he really thinks of TO. He isn't who you dream his is and gets paid more $$$ than any coach in the history of Nebraska and IMO doesn't even like it here. So yes his paycheck matters because he isn't doing what he is getting paid to do. Can you get away with that at your job?

    Crindal

  • When you look at our results for the last 2 games, you look at our stats in the BIG, we are last or 11th in almost every defensive category. We are 6/6 in our last 12 FBS games, terrible!

    Our last 3 games we have played against freshman QBs, we have made them all look like all conference players instead of dialing up a D to pressure them into bad mistakes. Instead they have all day to scan the field and find receivers running wide open after 5 or 6 seconds.

    Our play on D this last two seasons begs for answers, I know our roster is a mess right now with continual misses on
    the recruiting trail. The other issue that is the worst is we are getting out coached on a very serious level right now, the other team is making the adjustments in the 2nd half and giving us a serious whoopin.

    Our problems go beyond replacing a couple of linebackers, it looks to me that we have a big mess with our HC and his underwhelming assistants. Next 3 weeks will be interesting times down at Memorial stadium, I am hoping for good adjustments and changes?

    galloping ghost

  • Kane good post. I don't want bo fired now.
    But just because Saban and Tom eventually succeeded doesn't mean bo will. He may. He may not.
    Losing to teams we shouldn't and getting blown out and not being very successful in recruiting and not being nationally relevant get old.

    I want him tO succeed here but something we are going to have to see is him making changes not just trying harder to do the same thing.
    Bo didn't make adjustments in the game. UCLA ran the RB pass and got Compton to match up with him over and over. We didn't adjust. Bo is a very smart defensive mind but it only works with top talent. Yet we don't adjust to our talent. Hopefully he can figure it out but the clock is ticking.

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  • Crindal said...

    Bo Pelini makes that amount of money to win -- FAIL, to teach kids how to be men and how to play football -- QUESTIONABLE, to represent the program like a mature adult -- FAIL FAIL. To win games against quality teams -- FAIL FAIL? Ask Bo about his golf game, ask BO what he really thinks of the fans here, ask Bo what he really thinks of TO. He isn't who you dream his is and gets paid more $$$ than any coach in the history of Nebraska and IMO doesn't even like it here. So yes his paycheck matters because he isn't doing what he is getting paid to do. Can you get away with that at your job?

    Apparently, I was right. There is little that is rational in your post, but I'll address it point by point.

    I can only assume that you play golf with Bo, and that you have had several personal conversations with him. Otherwise, how could you possible know what he thinks of the fans or TO?

    I have no illusions about who or what Bo Pelini is. He's a football coach, who is trying his best to build this program into a championship program, which we have not been since 1999. It's to his advantage to do so, and I believe he is trying his damnedest to do just that.

    He is getting paid to win as many games as he can with the talent he has. Nine games a year is a 70% winning percentage. Do you actually know how many college coaches have a winning percentage of 70% or better?

    Your second point is unbelievably arrogant on your part. How on earth would you know the character of the players on this team?

    Your third point is STUPID STUPID. It's entirely based on your personal opinions and prejudices.

    Your fourth point is the only valid point you offer. I note that it is only in the fourth line that you even suggest that this is merely your OPINION, because you don't actually know if anything you've written is true.

    Here's the point. It doesn't really matter how much he's being paid. If any of your points are valid, then they would still be valid if he was only making $100,000 a year. Just because he's making three million does not mean that he automatically must be a championship coach. It would certainly be preferable, and it is certainly something the fans expect, but many college football, hell pro football, coaches have been paid as much or more and done no better.

    This post was edited by daddyact on 9/11/2012 at 1:03 PM

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  • daddyact said...

    Apparently, I was right. There is little that is rational in your post, but I'll address it point by point.

    I can only assume that you play golf with Bo, and that you have had several personal conversations with him. Otherwise, how could you possible know what he thinks of the fans or TO?

    I have no illusions about who or what Bo Pelini is. He's a football coach, who is trying his best to build this program into a championship program, which we have not been since 1999. It's to his advantage to do so, and I believe he is trying his damnedest to do just that.

    He is getting paid to win as many games as he can with the talent he has. Nine games a year is a 70% winning percentage. Do you actually know how many college coaches have a winning percentage of 70% or better?

    Your second point is unbelievably arrogant on your part. How on earth would you know the character of the players on this team?

    Your third point is STUPID STUPID. It's entirely based on your personal opinions and prejudices.

    Your fourth point is the only valid point you offer. I note that it is only in the fourth line that you even suggest that this is merely your OPINION, because you don't actually know if anything you've written is true.

    Here's the point. It doesn't really matter how much he's being paid. If any of your points are valid, then they would still be valid if he was only making $100,000 a year. Just because he's making three million does not mean that he automatically must be a championship coach. It would certainly be preferable, and it is certainly something the fans expect, but many college football, hell pro football, coaches have been paid as much or more and done no better.

    "Here's the point. It doesn't really matter how much he's being paid".

    then lets give him a pay cut

    and if i remember right Harvey Perlman publically reprimanding Pelini about his lack of maturity on the side lines and it was reported that Osborn talked to him about it as well.

    enjoy being a Pelini apologist but his act is wearing thin, not that we can fire him or should fire him yet.
    he does win 9 games a season. well he did until this season. i'd bet your trailer home on a 5-6 loss season.

    NU will go 3-5 in big 10 play.

    Crindal

  • Crindal said...

    "Here's the point. It doesn't really matter how much he's being paid".

    then lets give him a pay cut

    and if i remember right Harvey Perlman publically reprimanding Pelini about his lack of maturity on the side lines and it was reported that Osborn talked to him about it as well.

    enjoy being a Pelini apologist but his act is wearing thin, not that we can fire him or should fire him yet. he does win 9 games a season. well he did until this season. i'd bet your trailer home on a 5-6 loss season.

    NU will go 3-5 in big 10 play.

    I will bet you we don't go 3-5. If we were in the Big 12, Pac 12, ACC or the SEC. I wouldn't though. The big ten is bad. Not just Bad, real Bad.

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  • Crindal said...

    Bo Pelini makes that amount of money to win -- FAIL, to teach kids how to be men and how to play football -- QUESTIONABLE, to represent the program like a mature adult -- FAIL FAIL. To win games against quality teams -- FAIL FAIL? Ask Bo about his golf game, ask BO what he really thinks of the fans here, ask Bo what he really thinks of TO. He isn't who you dream his is and gets paid more $$$ than any coach in the history of Nebraska and IMO doesn't even like it here. So yes his paycheck matters because he isn't doing what he is getting paid to do. Can you get away with that at your job?

    Preach on.

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  • Khoolshady said...

    "Am gonna lay the truth down , am gonna strap it on and tell it like it is as we say. Bo is a rookie head coach! His "mistakes" and what he does are expected i think.

    It took TO at least 10 years to get the assets (the right student / athletes) to make his concept a reality. It took him 10 years to realize he has to get bigger, stronger and faster on all positions especially on the defensive side of the ball to compete with FSU, Miami and some of those SEC schools.

    After that student / atheletes came knocking on Nebraska's doors! He caught so much heat than hell that he almost took Colorado job. The only reason he stated not to go was his loyalty to the student / athletes he had recruited; so he stayed and the rest was history

    I, like some of you dont like some of the things Bo does sometimes. He was not hired to be liked however, as soon as he still commands respect he's not going to go anywhere or get fired. I am as frustrated as anyone for example why UCLA did not get a few doses of Imani Cross.

    Khoolshady: Loved your comments and agree with you 100%. Up vote for you.

    Kram

  • Crindal said...

    "Here's the point. It doesn't really matter how much he's being paid".

    then lets give him a pay cut

    and if i remember right Harvey Perlman publically reprimanding Pelini about his lack of maturity on the side lines and it was reported that Osborn talked to him about it as well.

    enjoy being a Pelini apologist but his act is wearing thin, not that we can fire him or should fire him yet. he does win 9 games a season. well he did until this season. i'd bet your trailer home on a 5-6 loss season.

    NU will go 3-5 in big 10 play.

    I love the fact that you assume I live in a trailer home. No such luck. No, I have to live in a fashionable part of Los Angeles and pay far more for the privilege than you probably make in a month.

    But, I digress. Five or six losses? Hmm, I wonder which five teams you think will beat the Huskers? Michigan? MSU? Ohio State? Northwestern?

    That's four possibilities, but considering that Iowa and Wisconsin lost to much worse teams than UCLA I kinda doubt either of them will have much luck. That leaves either Minnesota or Penn State. Both play in Lincoln. Neither has a prayer of winning there.

    All you have proven with your post is that you know next to nothing about college football, or Nebraska football, or B1G football.

    Oh, btw, we fans don't give Pelini any money. He is paid out of the revenues of the football program.

    This post was edited by daddyact on 9/11/2012 at 8:21 PM

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  • Landohusker said...

    I will bet you we don't go 3-5. If we were in the Big 12, Pac 12, ACC or the SEC. I wouldn't though. The big ten is bad. Not just Bad, real Bad.

    I don't know that we couldn't find at least four teams in any of those conferences that Nebraska could beat. I'd list them, but I don't care to waste the time.

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  • daddyact said...

    I love the fact that you assume I live in a trailer home. No such luck. No, I have to live in a fashionable part of Los Angeles and pay far more for the privilege than you probably make in a month.

    But, I digress. Five or six losses? Hmm, I wonder which five teams you think will beat the Huskers? Michigan? MSU? Ohio State? Northwestern?

    That's four possibilities, but considering that Iowa and Wisconsin lost to much worse teams than UCLA I kinda doubt either of them will have much luck. That leaves either Minnesota or Penn State. Both play in Lincoln. Neither has a prayer of winning there.

    All you have proven with your post is that you know next to nothing about college football, or Nebraska football, or B1G football.

    Oh, btw, we fans don't give Pelini any money. He is paid out of the revenues of the football program.

    Are you kidding me?

    It's good to be the King.

    Trash Angel

  • This may sound dumb but a team wr better not sleep on us northwestern. They were up big on Syracuse and let them back on the game but still won. Cuse put up some points on USC. Also they beat vandy who almost beat south Carolina. Something we couldn't do when they didn't have Marcus lattimore.
    I am not saying we lose but we better show
    up.

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  • Trash Angel said...

    Are you kidding me?

    You know what? I get the 'Trash' part but don't get the "Angel' part. shrug

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  • daddyact said...

    I love the fact that you assume I live in a trailer home. No such luck. No, I have to live in a fashionable part of Los Angeles and pay far more for the privilege than you probably make in a month.

    But, I digress. Five or six losses? Hmm, I wonder which five teams you think will beat the Huskers? Michigan? MSU? Ohio State? Northwestern?

    That's four possibilities, but considering that Iowa and Wisconsin lost to much worse teams than UCLA I kinda doubt either of them will have much luck. That leaves either Minnesota or Penn State. Both play in Lincoln. Neither has a prayer of winning there.

    All you have proven with your post is that you know next to nothing about college football, or Nebraska football, or B1G football.

    Oh, btw, we fans don't give Pelini any money. He is paid out of the revenues of the football program.

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  • daddyact said...

    I love the fact that you assume I live in a trailer home. No such luck. No, I have to live in a fashionable part of Los Angeles and pay far more for the privilege than you probably make in a month.

    But, I digress. Five or six losses? Hmm, I wonder which five teams you think will beat the Huskers? Michigan? MSU? Ohio State? Northwestern?

    That's four possibilities, but considering that Iowa and Wisconsin lost to much worse teams than UCLA I kinda doubt either of them will have much luck. That leaves either Minnesota or Penn State. Both play in Lincoln. Neither has a prayer of winning there.

    All you have proven with your post is that you know next to nothing about college football, or Nebraska football, or B1G football.

    Oh, btw, we fans don't give Pelini any money. He is paid out of the revenues of the football program.

    Hey I grew up in a mobile home. Also have been to LA. Maybe I saw you out there.
    Oh wait. I wasn't in the fashionable part though.
    Nevermind. I guess I didn't see you then.

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  • Landohusker said...

    For a Dc position.

    LOL!!!roflmao

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  • Scooby said...

    This may sound dumb but a team wr better not sleep on us northwestern. They were up big on Syracuse and let them back on the game but still won. Cuse put up some points on USC. Also they beat vandy who almost beat south Carolina. Something we couldn't do when they didn't have Marcus lattimore. I am not saying we lose but we better show up.

    Vanderbilt is the Minnesota/Kansas/Indiana/Duke of the SEC and always has been. Beating Vandy really does not mean all that much, other than that they are one of the three worst programs in SEC history.

    However, we can't sleep on NW, not after last year's game.

    This post was edited by daddyact on 9/12/2012 at 2:36 AM

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  • Trash Angel said...

    Are you kidding me?

    Which part don't you believe?

    That Pelini is paid out of football revenues? Hell, Nebraska football pays for every expense in the Athletic Department.

    If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion.

    daddyact

  • daddyact said...

    I don't know that we couldn't find at least four teams in any of those conferences that Nebraska could beat. I'd list them, but I don't care to waste the time.

    We could list them....but would they be on our schedule and would the location be favorable if we played in those conferences.

    nustudent

  • daddyact said...

    I love the fact that you assume I live in a trailer home. No such luck. No, I have to live in a fashionable part of Los Angeles and pay far more for the privilege than you probably make in a month.

    But, I digress. Five or six losses? Hmm, I wonder which five teams you think will beat the Huskers? Michigan? MSU? Ohio State? Northwestern?

    That's four possibilities, but considering that Iowa and Wisconsin lost to much worse teams than UCLA I kinda doubt either of them will have much luck. That leaves either Minnesota or Penn State. Both play in Lincoln. Neither has a prayer of winning there.

    All you have proven with your post is that you know next to nothing about college football, or Nebraska football, or B1G football.

    Oh, btw, we fans don't give Pelini any money. He is paid out of the revenues of the football program.

    Please don't scoff at Minnesota or Penn State. There is no reason they should win in Lincoln, I'll give you that. But as we've shown over the last few years, we've let teams beat us in Lincoln that have no business doing so.

    Iowa and Wisconsin are struggling, no doubt. But so are we....we aren't good enough to just show up. Those are games we should win as we are the more talented team, but once again, we've lost plenty of games when that has been the case.

    All that being said....I don't think we go 3-5 or even 4-4. I thought we'd go 6-2 before the season. I think we'll go 5-3 now.

    As far as the revenues go....isn't a big chunk of the revenue stemming from ticket and memorabilia revenue which is obviously funded by the fanbase.

    nustudent

  • daddyact said...

    I love the fact that you assume I live in a trailer home. No such luck. No, I have to live in a fashionable part of Los Angeles and pay far more for the privilege than you probably make in a month.

    But, I digress. Five or six losses? Hmm, I wonder which five teams you think will beat the Huskers? Michigan? MSU? Ohio State? Northwestern?

    That's four possibilities, but considering that Iowa and Wisconsin lost to much worse teams than UCLA I kinda doubt either of them will have much luck. That leaves either Minnesota or Penn State. Both play in Lincoln. Neither has a prayer of winning there.

    All you have proven with your post is that you know next to nothing about college football, or Nebraska football, or B1G football.

    Oh, btw, we fans don't give Pelini any money. He is paid out of the revenues of the football program.

    "I have to live in a fashionable part of Los Angeles and pay far more for the privilege than you probably make in a month".

    Luke Perry is that you?

    Generally people who find it necessary to boast about privilege and success don't have either or it was handed to them.

    Crindal

  • Crindal said...

    "I have to live in a fashionable part of Los Angeles and pay far more for the privilege than you probably make in a month".

    Luke Perry is that you?

    Generally people who find it necessary to boast about privilege and success don't have either or it was handed to them.

    He was basically called 'trailer park trash'. All he did was defend himself.

    Now you come along and call him a 'boaster'.

    Anyone else? It's smear DA time. Jump on board, people.

    [EDIT: My bad, people, just noticed it is the same poster who made both smears. So, no smear train going on. Sorry.]

    This post was edited by k9_r on 9/12/2012 at 9:54 AM

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