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Joining the Utah Blaze.
Good for Yoshi. Arena Football is fun. I had front row mid-field seats for the LA Avengers for 6 seasons. I wish they were still playing.
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Most AFL players get $400 a game, or $6,400 a year. The top end players get $1,000K per game, or $16,000 a year. Need a full time job outside of football to make a decent living.
Damn, I just found out that I'm not making a decent living.
The poverty level in the U.S. is around $11,500 for a single person.
If you are in college, I'm not sure I'd be real concerned. Everybody I knew in college lived in pretty much dirt poor conditions. 5 guys in a house, scratching by for weekend beer money. That is what college is supposed to be.
Many guys were making bank about a decade ago. This looks primed to be the best Arena season since 07 or 08.
A boy, a Twitter page, and the aspiration that you follow him. It's what this country was founded upon.
QBs get about 4Xs what other players get.
Which is Awesome.
4x's $400 is $1600 X 16 games is $25,600 a year.
It pays to be really really good at football and play in either the CFL (if you want to live in Canada) or the NFL.
If not? Doing oil changes at the local Jiffy Lube pays more bills than an Arena Football Player's salary.
It's above playing for fun and below playing for a living. It's playing for an opportunity more than anything.
During the NBC/NFL owner era you had certain players making about 100k-200k per season. The minimum salary was approx. 30-40k. Not bad at all.
Salaries really dropped after the league basically folded and was bought up by the Af2. Aaron Garcia went from making about 150k to 18k per season. The talent level REALLY dropped off too. Before the sit out year you had lots of guys who could legitimately play in the NFL and maybe even start.
Many got the opportunity and did something with it. Others used it to stick around on rosters for a significant amount of time: Khreem Smith, Rashied Davis, Stylez White, Bobby Sippio, etc. A few others never had the opportunity but I have no doubt could have played in the big (Will Pettis, Colston Weatherington, Clevan Thomas, Kevin Swayne, Tom Briggs and Damian Harrell for sure.)
After the sit out, "name players" such as Joe Germaine, Tony Graziani, Clint Stoener, and Marcus Nash weren't going to come back to play long seasons for such small pay. However, many staple players returned - Mark Grieb, Garcia, Kenny "the Glove" McEntyre, etc.
I'm not positive if your assumption about QB salaries is accurate. I think the reason the players went on strike at the beginning of the 2012 season was because of the quarterback salaries. However, I think the difference was MUCH less. I think the average quarterback was making about 18k a year and the average player was making about 10k. I think they ended up doing something like taking 4k off the quarterback salary and distributing it among the rest of the players.
If you go online you are going to find a lot of inaccurate or outdated information. Because of the instability of the league over recent years their salary guidelines have flucuated greatly. In 2010 and 2011 I think the players were making about 8k with 3 "exception" players. I forget what they called them. Basically they were like franchise players they were paid an extra grand a week.
I am very excited for this season, however.
A little less excited now that GJ Kinnie has signed with the Eagles. I'm glad he got the opportunity but I was really looking forward towards seeing him in the league this year.
Adrian McPherson and Clevan Thomas are back. Jordan Jefferson signed in the league. Not to say that non-BCS schools can't produce talent, but the league has done a much better job this season of bringing in guys who actually started at major programs.
It's gonna be a good year. I just wish I knew somewhere I could watch CBS Sports in Lincoln. LoL.
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This may not catch anyone's eye, but for those who may follow the Arena league, this really has the chance to shape up to be the best year in many seasons.
It's funny I mentioned all these players coming back to the league and in the last 24 hours Rod Windsor, Rohan Davey, and R-Kal Truluck have also signed on to return.
That is a splash from the past from LSU before they became really good.
Did he lose his job at the local Jiffy Mart?
Haha. He was always fat when he playing ball. I can't imagine what he's going to look like after having sat out the last 3 years.
Well, I guess my avatar is homage to Lorenzen.
,.......A mind is a terrible thing to waste! Nuff said!!
I loved 'Battleship' Lorenzen. Guy could sling it and he was a lefty.
Guy competed, and played hard.
While he probably smoked and drank during collegiate games, he was a throwback to a guy like Sonny Jergensen.
Love Battleship Lorenzen.
You mean The Pillsbury Throwboy?
Glad Yoshi is getting a shot to continue improving, get some more film out there and make a little money while he's doing it.
I can tell you're a diehard AFL fan. I worked for the SaberCats in 2007 when we won the Arena Bowl, so we had guys like Clevan, Grieb, Omarr Smith, Steve Watson, Marquis Floyd, James Roe, Rodney Wright, Tristan George, Ben Nelson, Phil Glover, Brian Johnson, Ron Jones, Allen Harper, George Williams, Garrett McIntyre, etc (I'm sure you recognize a lot of those names).
You're absolutely right about the salaries prior to the year the league went dark. We had several players making over 100K, with several more making 80-100K, and Grieb was well over 200K. In '07, I think the minimum was around 27K, but most players made more than that, and everyone had housing and food completely covered. Also, it was a 16 game season then, whereas they're playing 18 now.
San Jose always ran a tight ship. That must have been quite the experience to work with that organization.
Do you still work in Arena ball?
Before I got there, it had the reputation as being the best-run organization in the league, and it proved to be just that while I was there. Learned a lot from some of the best people in the industry. I'm no longer in the AFL, though - I've been covering recruiting for the Iowa site with 247Sports for the past two years now.
I think it's been mentioned here before, but Todd also coached down at Fort Scott when Lavonte, Yoshi and other guys were down there.
He's also built like a Mack truck.
As an ardent Avengers fan, I was regularly frustrated by losing to San Jose, but I did respect how well the organization was run. It was the hallmark of the AFL.
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