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Why are the folks preaching counter-culture and non-traditional messages protected, but those who don't are persecuted?
This post was edited by NPKNIGHT 2 years ago
I agree kram. I said my peace.
The Bible also says it's okay to beat your slaves as long as they don't die, just something to ponder before assigning infallibility to it.
I totally agree. Why does Coach Brown's religion, and we do not share the same exact faith, frighten people so much? Even IF he occasionally skirts the line, the vast good that he has done for UNL, his players, people, and the world in general ought to stand for something. That this is even a topic does not speak well for modern society.
Try not to become a man of success but a man of value.
This will be my final post on this subject. 1. I was not personally at the camp, but I heard the same report from 2 separate players who attended. 2. I don't care about Ron Brown's personal beliefs, until they become a problem for the university. If he continues to evangelize in his official position he becomes a liability to the AD, and the university at large. 3. If he had made it clear that he was speaking as a private citizen, and not a university employee, I would be on the other side of the debate. All private citizens should have the right to free speech.
This post was edited by Jewfrojenius 2 years ago
this may not be appropriate to post on this board but... I think people have to understand the context and theology behind these passages before they jump to conclusions that God condones slavery. The book of Philemon is a case in point. To say the Bible says "its' okay to beat your slaves as long as they don't die," is to completely ignore the cultural ramifications of slavery within the context of the biblical times.
In fact God does not condone these actions but basically says "if you have slaves do not beat them to death." This isn't condoning the idea of slavery (which was actually quite different in biblical times than what we normally think of [circa 1600-1860]) but acknowledging that there are people partaking in this practice who ought to be at least held accountable to how they treat these people. Slavery in was quite different in and of itself, it was not normal to beat slaves. It was normal to treat them more like hired servants and in fact many slaves CHOSE to remain slaves to their current house after 7 years. they would pierce their ears with a wooden stake to show that they committed to living as a servant to these people for the rest of their lives. the Greek word for "salve" (doulos) is actually translatable to "servant." In other words, slaves in this time period were treated more like hired hands than the slaves we think of when we think of slavery.
Just some food for thought... carry on.
My point was, not everything in the Bible is what seems. I'm aware of the context you are referring to.
Ron Brown, if he truly cares for the kids he coaches (many of whom are Christians - Aaron Green, Rex Burkhead, Imani Cross [yet to come]) and thinks they may be going to Hell because they don't believe in Jesus would show that he cared by sharing the Gospel with them. Ameer Abdullah is a Muslim and he loves Ron Brown even though Ron Brown has no doubt shared the gospel with him.
In other words if Ron Brown didn't evangelize to his kids in his mind he wouldn't really care about them.
If he's hurting the Nebraska brand and the football team then yes.
“Patience, n. A minor form of despair, disguised as a virtue.”
No. I don't think that a man who speaks openly about his religious beliefs should be fired because of it. Having said that, I think Ron will likely resign over the negative publicity that this is causing. No question, that he loves NU and loves his higher power. Best of luck to him and a big "thank you" for all he has done for the school and the young men he has coached.
WOW. I think you may know more than anyone here, but I hope you are wrong on this.
I know there has been talk of this prior to this topic, but he deserves to resign on his terms and his timeline. Coach Brown is a shining representative for the university, athletic department and community. He doesn't deserve the negative publicity.
Eh, maybe resigning now is on his terms.
I think my opinion on this matter may be a little jaded because of how I have witnessed the destructive nature homosexuality can have on a multitude of people, but here I go. First no he should not be fired, the only thing he could be scrutinized on is his platform but that could be communicated to him and hopefully he learns from this lesson.
This post was edited by Kevin Ryan 2 years ago
Great recruiting pitch.
I appreciate how this delicate topic has been politely & respectfully debated. This is one of the few places this could happen.
It's good to be the King.
I think he should be. He is using his position as an employee of the University to support discriminatory policies. If we had an assistant coach campaigning against interracial marriage or nondiscrimination policies for women he should be fired as well. Ron Brown is going to retire in a few years and will have all the time he wants to preach his message of intolerance. By ignoring Perlman and refusing to stay quiet for just a few more years he is creating an image problem for the University.
Statistics estimate that around 8% of males are gay or bisexual. There are most likely gay or bisexual members of the football team. For all the good Ron Brown does for players he can't be making those players feel good.
In memory of Tusks.
Oh. Hope I didn't unintentionally imply that I've heard anything about Ron quitting. Just is a hunch really. Ron Brown is a really good man with deep convictions. I really think that he doesn't intend harm on anyone and that the publicity surrounding this issue just will not be something he wants continually swirling around the University. It's not going to change him though, either.
Make no mistake, I support Ron in his right to voice his beliefs 100% and I hope he doesn't go. I just fear that it might push him in that direction.
No misunderstanding at all, I understand your point of view.
Thanks for sharing and come by more often.
...It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to.
W. C. Fields
AMEN TO THAT!
Yes, being able to be fired from your job for being gay is being protected.
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