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Also safe to say until our special teams units are coached better...doesn't matter what we do with our returner spots.
It hurts me to say this, but this is EXACTLY the issue, not the players. People can jump on ol' Barney all they want, but first on my list of assistants to go would be Els.
Like has been said on here before, Ross has the title of ST coordinator but it is a group effort. The whole staff works on this.
Schaefer and Burntz talked about this less than a week ago.
Ross has done a nice job. WR crew is as good as its been in years.
Recruiting the players we are is an improvement, we need to stake out claim though and learn how to close.
Ross Fischer doesn't deserve this criticism.
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Why are you talking about the WR coach, when he is talking about the LB coach?
Whoops. I'm flying around. My apologies.
Is say Ross Els deserves a year if two to get his recruits in there. He's done well getting talent in here.
Thanks Lando [faceplam]
This post was edited by beardown2489 15 months ago
Iirc Abilene christian has a pretty return guy in the nfl
nevertheless he's right... Els isn't in charge of the return men from what I understand. So there goes that theory. And I think he's a good LB coach... guess we'll find out next year when he'll have to coach dang well.
yes, Els will be watched closely this season. time to prove his worth by coaching these young and talented backers up. His stock could go way up over the next 12 months.
Our special teams are atrocious. 5 fumbled punts this season and no return game outside of Idaho State. They were just as bad last year. It's not a personnel issue on special teams it's a coaching issue. A return specialist would be a wasted scholarship IMO.
This post was edited by Juke17 15 months ago
Just as bad last year? Weren't people way high on Abdullah/our return game in general coming into 2012?
I agree that when three different guys are fumbling punts out there, it comes back on the coaches.
to be fair our PR game was bad this year, especially after the NW game. But the KR game was definitely hurt by the new KR rules.
Probably not as bad last year my fault, but far from good over all. Abdullah was good returning kicks in 2011, but we still had fumbling problems. Our Punt returns were bottom half of the Big 10 and our punt coverage was bad.
I would absolutely love having a guy who specializes as a return man - they do exist, you just don't hear about them often because pure return men are actually rarer in the NFL IMO.
BTW, I think Martinez sticks in the NFL is as a kick returner.
This thread just got hijacked.
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