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I am in support of Bo Pelini.
For many years, fans of the Big Red, including myself, have had high aspirations for the football team. A storied franchise with five National Titles and up-to-date facilities should always be in the spotlight. I've personally wanted a Big Ten title to show for all the hard work put in by the players the last couple years, and like everyone else, I've been disapointed.
However, by no means am I going to jump ship. Today's "What have you done for me lately?" demands from fans and programs are unfair. Coaches and coordinators jump ship much faster than the glory years, and programs are in a continual state of flux. Dealing with new recruiting rules, new coordinators, and ever changing offensive/defensive formations requires round-the-clock work schedules. No doubt, as football has expanded, so has the requirements and responsibilities to run a program, especially a "Blue-Blood" program.
Largely considered a top five coach of all time, Tom Osborne's first years mirrored Bo Pelini. Eight years he was unable to bring an outright conference title despite relative success and nothing less than 9-win seasons. He was nearly fired in 1976, only saved because he beat Texas Tech in the Blue Bonnet bowl to secure a 9-win season. He went on to win three national titles and multiple conference championships.
Patience has gone, and I'm not quite sure it will ever come back either. However, I am sure of one thing, Bo Pelini is a good coach; and unless Nick Saban comes knocking at the door, there isn't a better guy out there. So I hope others will stay patient, 'stay the course', and keep supporting the Big Red with Bo Pelini at the helm.
As always, GO BIG RED.
I will bump this when he is fired, or in 5 years, when we still have no championships.
Bo is not Osborne. Bo is a great DC, and just a average HC.
Took TO almost 25 years to win a natty. Will give you that TO had conference titles already but Bo will turn it around
I was always back Nebraska football. Hopefully Bo can give me more faith in his coaching abilities this season.
How many blowouts did Osborne allow?
The first few years they lost by 17+ to Oklahoma numerous times. Into the 80's it was few and far between but that was also 10 years in. Give Pelini more time
This post was edited by ScarletnCream 12 months ago
A few and it was brutal. The voice from the grandstand was terrible to him. The game has changed so much... TO lost his share by 17 or more to top teams. That's probably the biggest difference. Bos losses haven't always been to eventual natty champs.
OU was his biggest nemesis. He got owned. TO didn't hit his stride til Turner Gill got there. The time between Gill and Frazier wasn't the best of times for the Huskers either. Amazing how a terrific QB changes things. Our high caliber QB might be on the roster right now(not TM)
I agree. He took his lumps when he was real young in the game and he handed them out as time went on. They're different people coaching in much different times so its tough to compare them. That time between gill and Frazier was an absolute bit##fest.
Great post Stoobie!
This post was edited by NU Big Lou 12 months ago
The Tom Osborne comparisons really need to stop,
Osborne record 5 years in: 46-13-2
Pelini record 5 years in: 48-20-0
Osborne win % 5 years in: .780
Pelini win % 5 years in: .705
Osborne Poll Finishes: #7, 8, 9, 7, 10
Pelini Poll Finishes: #NR, 14, 20, 24, 25
Osborne Record v. Top 10 teams: 5-5
Pelini Record v. Top 10 teams: 2-7
Osborne Record v. Top 25 teams: 13-8
Pelini Record v. Top 25 teams: 6-12
Osborne 17+ Point losses: 3
Pelini 17+ Point losses: 8
Osborne 25+ Point losses: 3
Pelini 25+ Point losses: 6
Osborne Bowl Record: 4-1 (.800 win%)
Pelini Bowl Record: 2-3 (.400 win%)
While Tom Osborne was finishing in the Top 10 of the polls every year, Pelini has yet to guide is their once....
Osborne was 5 games over .500 v. Ranked teams (.619 win %) and Pelini is a kickass 6 games below .500 v. Ranked teams (.333 win %)....
And as you wrote back then many wanted to fire him because he couldn't beat OU for the Big 8 Title... Flash forward to present day and many think Bo Pelini is doing a great job... Amazing what red kool-aid and some really tinted red sunglasses can do to a fanbase.
Bamboo, or else...
Its really impossible to compare them given the vast differences in variables.
Edit: I think stoobie is just pointing out the benefits of staying the course and I tend to lean that way. I have no desire to be like bama or ol miss. They suck at life and I'd rather see us go d3 and live with the awesome history than be akin to that trash.
TO is one of the best college football coaches of all time... if Bo is even coming close to his winning percentage that's huge. As i said, not firmly in Bo's camp as I once was but to ask for his firing now is ridiculous and ignorant. You spit out all the selective stats that you want, doesn't change the fact that the program is better now than it was in 2007 when he took over... that's a fact.
You're right it's the kool aid that affects this fanbase. I am not happy with where we are as a program right now and with Bo as a coach. I am, however, willing to give him time like we did with TO. We are gonna set ourselves back another 15 years if we can Bo. So STFU your Bo hate is ridiculous. Ask former players during the TO years and I guarantee 95% do not call for Bo's head. Let him figure it out
I'll give you credit for one thing, Lando. You are firm in your beliefs, and you don't waiver.
I think you are incredibly wrong, and I've even questioned whether you're a husker fan or not.
I hope that you still get excited when we win, and when we are playing Ohio State in the B1G championship game in December, I will bump this thread.
I'm not the sharpest pencil in the drawer, so I tend to see things rather simply.
We all want to win, and win more. So does Bo.
We're not fully satisfied with his record so far. Neither is Bo.
Is he improving as a HC? Sure. Will he need to continue to show improvement? Absolutely.
Should he be compared to Osborne? No. None amongst us likes to be compared to others.
Will he be compared to Osborne? Yes, this is Nebraska...we can't help ourselves.
Are Panda, Lando, etc., good fans? Absolutely, all they want is Nebraska at the top.
Do they make me think? Certainly...some of the data is quite interesting and compelling and I appreciate their resolve.
By the zealousness of all commenters' posts, if you're in one camp or another, are you likely to change your mind at this time? No.
Do I agree it's time for a change? Not even remotely. Talk of dismissal is baseless and without reason or cause at this time.
Like Forrest, that's all I have to say about that. I'm giving it a rest until this season is over.
That will be a legendary bump
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Panda. Tom Osborne was left with a back to back national title team not a worthless callahan debacle.
HAHA, bingo! UV for this. Well done!
Yep, but you can repeat that until you're blue in the face and those guys will just keep bringing it back.
We won't get anyone better. Urban Meyer won't come knocking. Charlie Strong wont either. Neither would a top notch assistant like Muschamp or Jimbo Fisher from a couple years ago. Bo is much more loyal to Nebraska than any other coach like that would be as well.
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As long as he keeps the program clean and can consistently keep us as a team that wins 60-70% of our games I see no reason to get rid of him.
He might be a little overpaid for those expectations, but so is every college coach in America.
A boy, a Twitter page, and the aspiration that you follow him. It's what this country was founded upon.
Then you have very low expectations.
Just more excuses,
Charlie Strong (3 years HC): Conference Title (check), BCS Apperance (check), BCS win (check), Top 10 Poll Finish (check)
David Shaw (2 years HC): Conference Title (check), BCS Apperance (check x2), BCS win (check), Top 10 Poll Finish (check x2)
Jimbo Fisher (3 years HC): Conference Title (check), BCS Apperance (check), BCS win (check), Top 10 Poll Finish (check)
Mark Richt (First 5 years HC): Conference Title (check), BCS Apperance (check x2), BCS win (check), Top 10 Poll Finish (check x4)
If its so easy to just keep a program 'flying high' after NC wins, then why did Frank Solich win 1 Conference Title after TO left ? Why has USC become awful since Carroll left ? Why did UF become crap after Urban left ? So on down line, just taking over a successful program means nothing.
You either win games at a high clip, finish in the Top 10, win major bowl games, claim Conference Titles or you don't, there is no need to try to make excuse after excuse.
Osborne won 78% of his games and had (5) straight Top 10 Poll Finishes because he was a great coach, not because he inherited a great program. Just like all the other coaches who over the decades have taken over awful stretch runs of programs and made them great and what Bo Pelini has failed to accomplish, unless the cool Bronze Blue Whale Trophy from 2009 is something you strive for.
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