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The typical GA lasts 2 years at an institution. Marrow was here 2 years.
They typically leave for another school, unless there happens to be an opening where they are before their 3 year tenure is up.
If you think Marrow was destined to be a salaried assistant at Nebraska, I guess you can call him leaving a loss. Otherwise, he's just another GA that went elsewhere along the way like nearly all of them do.
The fact that he had ties and was a good recruiter has people putting him in the same category as a salaried assistant, but he was not. Maybe he should have never been put on the recruiting trail, but the argument that he was a devastating loss is subjective, because he was never a lock to be a regular assistant here to begin with.
It was a weird deal getting the waiver for VM to be a recruiter as a GA, and then having it backfire, more or less. Unusual scenario. But we didn't so much lose Marrow as he just moved on like nearly all GA's do.
Seems there is no sugar coating this any more. Still surprised there wasn't some way to get him on staff. Bo's loyalty to underperforming staff members will be his undoing.
GA's are now allowed to stay for 4 years I thought.
Also he was the TE coach, and was out recruiting when Barney wasn't.
Now if we are talking about a standard GA, I agree, be in this case we were not.
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I'm with Josh here. Marrow was much different than other GAs.
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Not aware that there were different classifications of GA's. You sure about that? By what I read a short while ago it's 3 years. The NCAA reports that most leave after 2 years, which coincides with many graduate school class loads. Done with school, move on, either to coaching or your grad specialty.
Yes, he was out recruiting this year by special waiver with the NCAA, otherwise, it wouldn't have been allowed.
He did have a specific function with the TE's, but I don't think that put him in any special category of GA. That was just Bo's choice.
In summary, I've never viewed GA's as guys you end up keeping around. Can you think of another Husker GA that went straight to the assistant staff after serving as a GA? I can't.
Unfortunately, putting Marrow on the recruiting trail turned out to be a Pandora's Box. In the end, however, he was still a GA and most those guys go elsewhere when it comes time to get a salaried position.
Well, for starters, he's about 20 years older than most GA's. He showed up with a lot more background than your typical 24 year old GA.
Placing Marrow in some type of special GA category creates a contradiction. If he was that special to Bo and the program, I seriously doubt Bo lets him walk. If you have the guy pegged to be on your staff long term, you make it happen.
I agree most go elsewhere after GA is completed and most often times its encouraged.
But if you got back and read quotes from recruits ie Sandland... he was the TE's coach, not a GA in their minds.
Marrow if I remember correctly has been out recruiting more than just this year, yes he had a special waiver to do so, but the fact that Bo pulled Barney off the trail, and inserted Marrow... thats saying something.
Marrow was one of our top recruiters... between he JP and TJ.
Now watching the after math of the kids he was recuiting and secured commitments from who are arguably some of our best gets leaving. He must have meant more to them than just being a GA.
Not that easy anymore to just insert a coach that is a GA currently.
Funny though, with new recruiting rule we could have gave him the RC job and just added him to the payroll.
There are certain guidelines from what I understand of how this AD is going to move forward on hiring new coaches, a big one being experience. TIFWIW.
oh for god's sake... that is really over-the-top hyperbole ...it is not going to reduce the program to chaos, disorder, or helplessness ...jeezus, man
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...and you believe this is a "devastating loss?"
Zonie, buddy you missing the boat.
I am not saying this whole thing is going to crumble into the ground... but the inroads to hot beds we were having success in were due to Marrow.
Will we survive ofcourse, will the sun rise tomorrow, more than likely... will the kids that Marrow recruited choose not to attend Nebraska.... likely.
Relative to the ad comment, in that case it may have been tough to just move marrow into an ac position. You are right though about rc job although will that person be on the road recruiting.
I am going to go out on a limb, and assume something...
Schaef talks to these kids fairly frequently, and knows the actual relationship that Marrow had with these kids and the presense Marrow had on the recruiting trail. I am sure Schaef knows a lot more than whats posted in the articles from these kids. If recruiting anylists think he is a larger loss than just some "GA who ran out his clock"... might be more than what meets the eye.
So are you saying we will lose the other ohio recruits this year? I know we lost mcwilson and sandland but hope not the case for gladney and hart since love is on campus.
Now you are raising a really valid point about the whole Vince Marrow saga.
What was VM actually telling these kids his role was when he was out on the trail?
If he was telling these kids "I coach the tight ends" and conveniently leaving out the fact that he was a GA, then I find that hugely problematic. Granted, GA's aren't supposed to be recruiting anyway, so maybe how VM was going to handle this was never a consideration.
I agree that Marrow had value. That's not being debated. I would contend that we have never hired GA's before with the expressed intent of making them regular assistants, which seems to be what some are thinking.
Depends on how the relationship transfer went from Marrow the recruiter to position coach and coordinator.
I think they are solid, but when 2 kids from the same school/area one decommits, the other is bound to have wandering eyes as well. Hoping that doesn't happen for goodness sakes, but it is probable.
We're lucky Courtney is enrolled.
I don't believe he was hired for a future position, but when you have a GA that has had the success that he has had, its hard to ignore. Granted he is OVERQUALIFIED, but even the more reason to try to keep him in some capacity. Heck his son is still on the team.
So you telling us you are hearing we are in for more bad news with the rest of these ohio boys. If we lose love after he is on campus all ready that is really bad and can't imagine how that goes down with him starting winter conditioning i presume.
No, I am saying there is a "chance" is all. Nothing more.
Brett Bielema lost five Asst. Coaches in one year, hired five new, fired the new O.C. after a few weeks into the season, struggled mid-year and crushed us in the CCG. The world of big boy college football is very fluid.
If a GA with a solid background and better than average or good skills for a GA is supposed to be the be all and end all for the state of Ohio recruiting, and the end of road for Nebraska it would probably be the first time in history for that to happen to any D1 college program.
I am sick to death of this walk on water horse hockey. Coaching changes happen, the world is still going to spin on its axis and Nebraska football is not going devolve because Vinny leaving.
Bo Pelini and Tim Beck both have better resumes and respect than Vinny and Mark Stoops by a wide margin in the state of Ohio. But, it sounds like they should just fold up their tent there and move on, I mean how are you going to beat the messiah from Kentucky?
Edit: cleaned up a little language.
This post was edited by Michael Bruntz 15 months ago
Love the "horse hockey" comment.
The biggest issue for me is we dont have great recruiting at all positions and Marrow was proven to be very successful. Its just making it worse is the decommits.
We dont have another GA on staff that can match what Marrow was doing and proved he could do.
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