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I'm not looking to give Martinez a pass, I just accept that unless he quits the team or is unable to play football, he's our QB. I'm not sure what the final tally is, but I can think of FOUR games we've lost where Abdullah fumbled the ball. That's just plain unacceptable, and as Juke said, it's not like we don't have other options.
If Abdullah is the featured back for next season, expect more of the same. It was an issue 2 years ago, the staff implemented the "100 yd roll" punishment, and he still put it on the carpet at an alarming rate last season. I don't see much reason to believe he's going to just magically learn how to hang on to the ball better.
TM has carried the team many more times then not - he is directly responsible for a great deal of our success on offense. He also, as Pelini says, makes some bonehead throws. He may not have the biggest hands in the world either as he fumbles the ball a lot. As you point out some of this is on the WRs and OL but, much as I hate to say it, the bulk of it is on Taylor IMO.
As you also point out it is mostly a myth that we regularly lose to less talented team. Ask Stanford if Wisconsin lacked talent. UCLA, is inconsistent but very talented. They played in the PAC 12 championship and we played them on the road without Burkhead. Ohio State was undefeated and Georgia a top 5 team.
Much of the myth stems from the 2011 Northwestern loss at home. That was a CLASSIC trap game as we played them after a lights out effort and performance against MSU and right prior to having to face PSU and Michigan in back to back road games. NW, a team that is very poised, very bright and very well coached is also well known for winning 1 or 2 games every year that most expect them to lose.
Moving on to the 2013 season: the Michigan game in Ann Arbor next year will be a tremendous challenge. The Wolverines have a great home field crowd/advantage and also seem to get a lot of the calls in the Big House. We'll see what happens but if we cough the ball up or throw it away up there we will lose. If we are able to force some turnovers and take care of the ball I think we've got a pretty decent chance to win that game. Those are Big IFs though.
IMO we can reasonably expect that we have a good shot to win the rest of our games. Cutting the freakishly high number of TOs on offense by say 25-30% and parleying what should be better athleticism in the back 7 into 4 or 5 more TOs on D and we'll be in good shape. -- I've also gotta believe the kicking game will get the attention it needs and be improved. Anyway we do have some reason for optimism in 2013. I wish Bo and the boys the very best of luck!
I could comment on both of the posts here and make some points but don't think there is much there to quibble with except any team could arguably always have a better OL. Nebraska's needed to be better last year, but was pretty good most of the time. However, putting TM behind the best OL in the country isn't going to make his grey matter function any more proficiently, which is the heart of the matter, and would make little to no difference in the number of TOs he commits.
To move onto something a little different, what is everyone's outlook on the team next year if we have a +5 TO margin for the year? +10? Just this factor and I'm not considering anything about schedule as I think that is being overblown. It's the Big 10, the schedule is fairly easy every year except for a game or 2 and a possible CCG. I'm thinking we could be 11-1 with either a +5 or +10. I think we will have to many holes on the DL or have mistakes somewhere that cause us to lose at least one game even with a modest to good TO margin.
I agree with you but Bo will not replace TM. That is just the way he run the husker program.
...It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to.
W. C. Fields
I put this on the coaches. It's not that hard to teach your backs to carry the ball high and tight...it's basics.
Says the former Husker great
What is crazy is that players have the discipline off the field, but on it....
IMO Bo would be an utter fool to bench Martinez. Taylor was the coach's all B1G selection at QB and is clearly an exceptional playmaker. He carried the team on his back more then once last season. He also runs the offense very effectively and shows tremendous poise in the 4th quarter.
Unfortunately he tends to make some bad decisions throwing the ball - often compounded by not getting great pass protection - and fumbles the ball a lot. The fumbles are, IMO, mainly attributed to his tremendous desire to not give up on a play believing he can turn nothing into something big. But unless you've got Johnny Manziel on the 2nd team no coach would put Taylor's playmaking and explosiveness on the bench. -- Obviously the coaches in the B1G wouldn't. Clearly though the TO's are definitely keeping him from greatness - and contributing significantly to some of the blowout losses.
agreed. I'm not saying this will happen, just that it should.
I share your .
Mercy, no intention to "pick" at you here but I found your post ironic. As I've said elsewhere here, I am not expecting that TM becomes a benchwarmer (or at least doesn't start as QB), I am just saying that is what should happen here for all the reasons laid out in this article and discussed in this thread. I found this post of yours ironic because earlier in the day you articulated the point I want to make better than I could: "However he takes away close to 1/2 of what he gives us with his TOs.? BINGO, that is exactly the point, so replacing him with someone else is not that big a deal IMO because half of TM's production is not all that spectacular.
Second was your comment about Manziel. Special talent who had a really special year. Once in a generation talent IMO. I'd be stupid nuts to suggest the TA is like putting Manziel on the field, but I think he very well could be something close. If we have Manziel on the 2nd string, or something fairly close to his kind of talent, are we not stupid to keep that on the bench and burn a year of that eligibility while watching TM give it to the other team over and over again, because there is no reason to think it's going to change?
It is difficult to precisely quantify Taylors cumulative contribution to the offense. However our offense average over 44 points per game if you throw out the Iowa City game played in conditions that included steady 30-35 mph winds and air temps in the teens. To average that many points per game even WITH those horrendous TO numbers is absolutely crazy.
So we have/had an extremely potent offense and this with Burkhead, our projected all conference RB, missing most of the season. Taylor was most definitely the straw the stirred the Husker drink and gave oppossing DCs nightmares with his run/pass ability. His game breaking running ability and straight line speed is off the charts and he has become Very effective in finding the open receiver and hitting him. There is a reason he was selected the all B1G QB. Nobody wanted to have to defend him.
I just don't think we had any QBs on our team that could come close to his production - even if they Never turned the ball over. In other words Taylor shooting himself and his team in the foot 1/2 the time is still one of the most dangerous offensive playmakers in college football. And I don't think that is JMO either.
Tommy Armstrong has a really good chance to be an exceptional QB at NU. He does not have Taylor's gap speed but will be an effective runner. As a true frosh it would be extremely unlikely that he would have full command of the offense and against some of the more physical and intelligent B1G defensive teams I would be concerned about what might happen to his confidence. This is no slam on Tommy - as I said I expect him to be very good. I could be wrong but history incicates that very very few true freshman QBs (Manziel even had a RS year and is a once in a decade or so talent) can come in immediately and be effective. I firmly believe Armstrong's RS year will serve both he and the Huskers well in the years io come.
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