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Talk about eye opening..... We gots some work to do.....
This post was edited by HuskerB 15 months ago
I've accepted we have a QB that turns it over. Thats not going to change. That being said it is a MUST that Abdullah fixes his fumbling problem. If he can't he needs to sit.
TMart is the heart of our fumbling problems. I like TMart but I am hopeful Armstrong and Stanton are even better.
Dirk's a little bit late to the party on this topic.
We had plenty of discussions on the board this past season that specifically mentioned how turnovers have related to our W/L record under Pelini.
Nonetheless, it's still pretty amazing how direct the correlation is.
Its hard enough to win right now, but really they are playing two games a week. one vs the other team and one vs themselves,
That sums it up pretty well.... We basically spot our opponents an average of 9 points per game.... Kinda makes me wonder how we managed to win 10 games!
Need some help here. Who was it that made kids that fumbled carry around a football all during the week leading up to the next game?
...It ain't what they call you, it's what you answer to.
W. C. Fields
The movie "The Program" did that, but don't remember the coach in real life...
Not saying Dirk is wrong, but I can't imagine he finds much enjoyment in his work. His sole role seems to be grudgingly giving very muted praise to any success NU has and, apparently, spending every waking hour coming up with articles that either cast NU in the worst possible light, portray the coaches as negatively as possible, and inform us the sky, if it hasn't already fallen, is approaching rapidly.
LOL...Can you imagine how much "fun" hanging out with he and Barfknecht would be? Yes...that was sarcasm...
Bring the Pain-
This is just stupifying!!!!!!!!! You are going to get all over Abdullah for 3 fumbles on plays from scrimmage, but just accept Turnover Martinez' lack of leadership in this area, and he handles the ball every play whereas Abdullah 25-30% of the time? The special teams situation needs a major overall in every area with real coaching - that will fix most of those fumbles IMO.
And yes, the turnover prone QB situation could change. We have a guy in Tommy Armstrong available, who has been in the system for awhile now, and who is better than Turnover by all accounts. Play TA and these turnovers presumptively take a precipitous drop in number.
11 INTs in 14 games is very acceptable, although about half of them are very preventable stupid throws where it was hard to understand what he thought he was seeing, and they come in clusters. It's the 10 fumbles that are usually the killer. He looked so much better early on like he was consciously trying to correct this. Then as of Ohio State (another big game collapse) he just went off a cliff for about 5 games. The numbers are staggering, but so are the bunches of turnovers together in big games, mostly just silly mistakes. People ask why we don't perform well as a team in big games? How discouraging is this trend to the rest of the players? Very. It was also about this time that the offense because less proficient and much less fast paced. There is probably a connection in that when he begins to struggle mentally with managing the offense his concentration on holding onto the ball isn't as intense because he is struggling trying to understand the check-downs or something.
These numbers are not new or mystifying as they are just added info to an ongoing problem. Fix it and we are an elite team most years. Turnover would have to be the greatest QB of all time by a large margin to overcome these numbers, and of course he isn't that by a long shot. Turnovers problems can be coached out of most players, and if not, they should sit. The fact that this problem has not been corrected for years is very troubling.
there might not be a journalist i respect less than Dirk.
Interesting, why is that? I respect Dirk more than Rome. But he's not a journalist.
explain? He and Sam are the only ones worth reading in state.
Preaching to the choir
I don't always agree with dirk but to me Sipple is the one I can't stand.
The problem that many people have with dirk is that he is too critical. He may be at times but he has a job to do. Also he is a nu grad.
I bet his is sick of our mediocrity. I know I am.
I am sick of not bein relevant
No bcs games
No conference championships
No top 10 finishes
Only 1 top 15 finish
Blow out losses
Losing to any team that is good
3-17 vs teams that finished ranked.
I know that was critical. Rant over. But recruiting looks ok to pretty good but not great. The one thing we mainly point to for the future is an easy schedule, not total belief in a high probabllity that we will actually hang with big boys.
When I look at Michigan and Osu they look like they are going up regardless of who they are playing. They are recruiting lights out.
I just want that same feeling for us. That we are legitimately moving up. To me it feels like cruise.
cool picture from space
I heard Bo kicks Dirks puppies when jogging in Omaha.
P.S. I like Dirk and how he's not afraid of asking the tough questions that we all want the answers to anyway
There are plenty:
Stephen A Smith
...and plenty more.
Pretty much ESPN as a whole
I'm sorry, I meant Husker journalists... he's a very good writer when he sticks to actual information. (like this article) He often lets his emotion concerning NU guide his writing and his interpretation of facts. Much like Sipple but in the other direction. Sam McKewon is the best print writer right now.
Of course Schaefer and Bruntz take the cake online.
I'm saying we can't have two turnover prone guys in the backfield. We're going to have one in Martinez regardless. We can afford two. Armstrong won't be a serious option next year. Barring injury Armstrong won't play outside of mop up duty. But there is plenty of competition at RB for Abdullah.
As a few people have said this definitely isn't some sort of revelation. It is well laid out though.
I don't think Dirk was taking any cheap shots unless belaboring the obvious in a slow period for NU football is considered taking a shot.
It is absolutely agonizing that we had 35 TOs - 8 more then the next worst team in the top 25 (#24 rated Michigan) and more then 3 Xs the # of TOs K State had.
TO margin is, and has always been. the single most important statistic in terms of winning or losing games. Taylor is a fabulous playmaker and 1 of the most dangergous offensive threats in college football. I'm a big fan of his work ethic, poise under 4th quarter pressure and leadership in the tight games. However he takes away close to 1/2 of what he gives us with his TOs. Not helping is the fact that take aways on D are very average (23 for the season) which puts us just slightly better then 50% of D1 teams.
Next to impossible to become a top 10 team with those numbers in this vital area.
Having said the above; (and God forgive me hear for 'saying this out loud') next year we appear to have a very easy schedule. Michigan away will likely be the only game where we won't be favored - and UCLA at home will be difficult. The rest - well I am uncomfortable saying this - but we should win. Many of them comfortably.
Forcing 1 or 2 more TOs then we give up in those 2 (UCLA/UM) games and, the way I see it, our chances of going in to the B1G CCG undefeated are pretty high.
Point taken, but Abdullah only had 3 fumbles on plays from scrimmage all year (when he's "in the backfield"). For a guy that was your feature back and gained well over 1,000 yards that is not "fumble-prone" in my book. The 6 in all his work is an issue but the special teams situation was such a meltdown this year I'm giving it something of an asterisk. IMO the #1 focus of the staff going into spring and fall camp has to be orchestrating about a 300% improvement in that phase of the game (and I'm only talking about returns and coverage - I know Maher struggled some and not as effective as 2011, but he was still good overall). The fact that we had several incredible comebacks to win games and only lost four games is probably most amazing because of the ineffective play in the kicking game all season. I'd have to do research to be sure but I would suspect we gave up 40-50 yards in field position per game on average. Worst I've ever seen at Nebraska.
On the other hand, the primary responsibility of a QB is to properly managed the game and avoid turnovers whenever reasonably possible. That needs to change. I don't disagree that TA won't be given the chance but that will only be because of a bad coach's decision. We played Turnover Martinez as a RSF when he clearly wasn't ready and we had a better option that sat on the bench. TM shouldn't get any special treatment when TA is likely better and him playing will likely get us more Ws next years.
I agree on your analysis of the bottom line contribution of TM. However, I don't think him playing QB comports with an undefeated season no matter who we are playing in terms of strength of schedule. Turnovers allow you to lose to weak teams, which has been our forte lately.
I agree except I would remove "very" from the "good" but that is just me. I don't think they teach REPORTING in journalism anymore.
I almost never read anything by Dirk. Way too much like Barfknecht. I just don't care for the smarmy, little kid style "gotcha" then hiding behind semantics, etc...
There is no QB on our roster now or next season whose play will lead us to an undefeated season.
We also have not lost to weak teams. UCLA, Ohio State, Wisconsin and Georgia were not weak teams.
I think we have a chance to win the Big Ten next season, and I think the biggest factor will be Taylor Martinez. I don't think he is the kind of player that is going to lead us to a national championship, but I would say if we contend it will be because he carried us on his shoulders.
Martinez was selected by the Big Ten coaches as the all Big Ten QB.
Yes he makes too many turnovers, but he also makes great plays, sometimes without much help from his teammates. If Taylor played behind a good OL, he would have fewer turnovers and fewer INT's.
Our WR's need to learn how to turn into DB's when there is a ball thrown off target. I don't think I saw one WR knock down an errant pass last season. This is basic skill that every WR in the NFL has.
Also we do not have the talent on D to create turnovers, which is the second part of the T.O "margin". We don't hurry QB's and we don't hit RB's and WR's hard enough to cause fumbles. We do intercept some passes, but against Georgia, the only really outstanding passing team we faced, our DB's looked like H.S. kids.
There is lots to "fix" on this team before you get to T.M.
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