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I'm as disgusted as you, but it's not the fans that are accepting it..........it's a matter of precedent for when it comes to finding a new coach.
No one of quality in their right mind will come to Lincoln knowing that winning 70% of your games won't cut it. Firing two coaches with post .700 winning records in the past decade is awful precedent. You have to see this.
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A boy, a Twitter page, and the aspiration that you follow him. It's what this country was founded upon.
No, I don't see it. Any coach worth his salt is going to look at the scores of some of these games and think "Yeah they fired his ass, he's getting beat 48-17, 45-17, and 63-38 in conference" . That's just in the Big 10. Remember the Mizzou debacle in Lincoln or Oklahoma scoring 28 points before the network could go to commercial? We aren't competitive. We are being completely out classed by every program worth a damn. Every single one. We're slipping into mediocrity and some of us are saying "Yeah, but what are you gonna do"?
I am way behind on reading peoples responses but interesting tidbit: Benning had an interesting statistic today on 1620... B. Cotton is the ONLY assistant coach that has had the same role dating back further than 2011... meaning every single coach on our staff has been coaching their "position" less than a full year...
No offense but seeing his "ties" to Paterno makes me like him as a candidate less... its probably dumb on my part but i dont care. i do not want to touch anything from that program ...
Bingo!! This is what we have under Pelini in year 5.
TO indicated this same thing when firing Callahan. In addition, the players were not responding to the staff.
I see the exact same thing with Bo - uncompetitive in games or at least halves of games and players not responding to coaching (case in point - see article on Bo's plans for bye week). You could have put in a date from last year and you wouldn't know the difference.
Oath Before Orders
slipping into mediocrity? We've been in mediocrity since 2002 and if you can't see that i'm sorry. It's part of the reason why this job isn't as desirable as it once was. For every Oklahoma in the Pelini era there is a Texas... Oklahoma at home, Ohio State, Wisconsin wins that we've had as well. I'm not happy about where we're at but to pretend Bo is the one who brought us here is to turn a blind eye to 2001-2007.
This is the danger of hiring a head coach that had never been a head coach before. Nebraska is not "Training Wheels U." Which is why I felt Perlman needed to, and was relieved when, he hired an AD that had big-school experience.
Whoever and whenever Nebraska hires Bo Pelini's replacement, it needs to be someone who has head success as a head coach at the college level. Preferably one with an agreeable personality that will work his butt off and make his staff work their butts off to recruit.
First off I don't think BO will be fired, and in general I think that BO really does know the game of football. My issues with BO are
He is too stubborn to change his ways - Yes we had a great Defense running the 2 gap with Suh and Crick, but that was with Suh and Crick. You have to be able to change to the players that you have and BO has not done that.
He Needs to change his Recruiting tactics big time, like start doing it - We are getting out recruited by Purdue at a position that that we need the most. That is not OK. I think that BO can coach good D with the right guys, but he is not putting in the work to bring those guys in.
I have always been a believer that if you allow yourself to become comfortable with mediocrity than mediocre is all you will ever be. BO might be able to get it done but he needs to "look in the mirror" as he likes to say, and go get some players and adapt to their strengths.
OK let me rephrase it. The PROGRAM is slipping into mediocrity. In 2002 we were a year removed from playing in the National Title game (I know we didn't deserve to be there). Three years removed from a '99 team that was good enough to have played for a title and probably could have won it. We were not mediocre as a program. Steve Pederson was just an idiot. That debacle could have been remedied in 2007 with a good hire. Instead we went with the trendy Defensive Coordinator that had been here before. What head coaching experience did he have though? Hiring coordinators is risky, but we did it and now we're paying the price. I'm not saying Bo is the reason we are where we are. He is however the reason we STILL are where we are.
Great post. Thank you.
Great thread sir
While Bo may not be living up to expectation, there are people here who are totally delusional about who would be interested in the job if Pelini is terminated.
You can take whatever list you want to come up with and scratch 90% of those names off the top of it. By such a time, we would have terminated 3 head coaches in a 11 year period who collectively won about 68% of their games. Those thinking we would attract a top HC from somewhere else to come here evidently think those potential new coaches are fairly ignorant. They wouldn't come here at any price, because if you did offer them some ridiculous amount, they would know that the stakes would be even higher for them. The new level of "not good enough" would be even higher than it was for the guys who got axed after 5 years or less.
We couldn't hire a quality HC when Frank got fired because no one was interested, regardless of what some people are saying. The best we could do was look at NFL coordinators and eventually had to settle for a former head coach who still had a shoe stuck in his ass from a termination a few weeks before. It was a complete embarrassment to the University and the program..
When Callahan needed to go, the list of proven college HC's interested in the job was barely any better. Those Tom talked to were only passively interested. Bo wasn't hired because he was head and shoulders above the other potentials. He got the job in large part because he was one of the few guys who truly wanted the position.
So now people are thinking that if we give Bo the boot, top notch candidates will be chomping at the bit to get their shot at Nebraska. Be careful what you hope for.
The only way a post Bo hiring process goes well is if he steps down for personal reasons. That leaves the door open. Run him off, and the potential new hire will come from a list of guys most of you never heard of. He won't be a well known name from the BCS division. The best we will do is find someone who's fairly anonymous right now. The same people who were clamoring for Bo to go, will be wondering who in the hell these guys are who are supposedly candidates for the job.
Anyway, it's been an entertaining thread. Always humorous to see just how irrational some people are when it comes breaking these situations down.
100% agree TUF
thank you sir.
As always A+ stuff. UV for you if I had any left.
Feed me to the wolves, and I will return leader of the pack. #FreeDA
I got him covered.
Question about when we were lolling for a coach after bill.
Was Tom willing to pay big money or not? I don't know. But if he wasn't then that may explain something.
IIRC Tom didn't want to pay much but again not sure.
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Have to say, I'm with Lando on this one. I have been a BO guy since day 1, but it is becoming increasingly apparent that he is not the man for the job. The performances in big games speak for themselves. His sideline behavior is juvenile, his treatment of media and others important to the program has never been any good and he's made it clear to those inside his circle of friends that he will not change in this regard. He's also very tough on his assistants. His distain for recruiting is common knowledge. Honestly, what should we be defending him for? Wins against inferior teams? That's about all we can hope for as things stand right now with our program. Sorry, but I don't have a good feeling about things associated with NU football right now.
I think the salary being offered was competitive for the time being offered.
As I recall, we hired some outfit to help with the search and shake out legitimate candidates. What we got back from them was token interest from a chosen few. It was another learning experience about how unattractive the job was.
Those guys were quickly sorted out due to their underwhelming interest or assistant coach demands. Money wasn't likely a big issue, but frankly, none of those guys commanded major bucks anyway.
Bo went to the top of the list almost by default. It was a short search, due I suspect to the lack of legitimate contenders.
The salary was right for a coach with no head coaching experience. After the A&M game and Harvey et als comments Bo trolled TO by talking with the AD at the time about the Miami job. TO subsequentially overpaid. This caused a huge fallout with Ehkler & led to his leaving the program. Ek didn't think it was right that Bo b.s.'d a mutual friend (Miami AD) just to get back at Perlman for his comments regarding Bo's meltdown during the A&M game (among other embarrassing on & off the field that needed to be reigned in).
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It's good to be the King.
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