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MK, Thanks for the response. More than I can seem to get from a lot of people here.
COULDN'T recruit any worse - I'd call that an exaggeration. Bo struggle in the first 2 years here to recruit talent. We agree upon that. I'm not sure what you think of the last couple years in recruiting but I would call them a success. I think we are bringing in the right kinds of talent now. What we see in the depth chart though is lack of depth because of 08 and 09. I agree its frustrating, but its an area I've seen continuous growth. I believe that any new coach is going to have a learning curve when it comes to recruiting to a school such as Nebraska. Its not easy.
COULDN'T handle his roster any worse + COULDN'T mismanage his roster any worse - Not sure what the difference is here and don't really know what you are pointing to so i'll put it on the back burner.
COULDN'T have any more of an undisciplined team - This teams lack of discipline ON THE FIELD is concerning. It is my biggest complaint over the 5 years Bo has been here. OFF the field discipline is one of the greatest parts about this program right now. Bo has raised the bar in the classroom and as citizens. He is building men. Nebraska football holds a great amount of pride in academics and Bo exemplifies that point.
The qb depth/experience - Not going to harp on this too much, could write a book on it from both perspectives by now. Taylor has shown growth and is a leader of this team now. I think we like the depth that we will have in the future. Taylor will have played more games at QB that any other qb in Nebraska history and after that you will see better depth. Playing the backup more is not a big deal to me. Taylor needs to grow too. Everyone knows that so it confuses me when the people saying Taylor needs to improve are the same ones calling for the backup to get reps in end of game situations.
PJ and Eric - Both have been on the field for 3 years. They are flourishing this year. What makes you think they could have flourished 2 years ago? Martin is an athlete that took some time to find his home position. Glad he did. That is hard to do. I think Pelini should be given credit for taking a guy who was a LB when he arrived and turning him into a top B1G D End. PJ smith has played for 3 years now and was not nearly as disciplined 2 years ago as he is today. We both know that Safety is a crucial piece to Bo's system and the detail it takes to perform at a high level. It takes time. There are few players that could execute what Bo wants that position to execute in year 2 in the program.
Jamal Turner - A QB playing WR as a freshman is something i agree with you on. He should have RS'd. I think he is on his way now but I think we could have handled his situation a little better. Right now I'll go aboard with you here. It is worth noting that we have plenty of talent at WR...more so than at any other time in Nebraska's history. (Thank you Bo)
Coaching is a hard thing to do. Nebraska is one of the most difficult places to coach in the world. Bo is young for a head coach, but has a great mind for football. He is inexperienced. It shows. We agree that there are things he would do differently, looking back at his first 5 years. I think it is in the programs best interest to invest in people and help them grow. We ask our coach to do that with our team and we should allow him the same opportunity. I believe he has shown growth in several areas, and I hope to see that continue. If I see it stop I'll be the first to call for his job. Until then I'm behind him.
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This is a very good post. Sums up how I feel as well. Well done meyerkids.
HW / Lando / Meyers
I hope this doesn't feel like a 'personal attack, but when any of you post something, i just assume the others feel the same way.
I'm wondering if you'll still have his back WHEN/if he turns his back to Nebraska and all his few fans that support him. Really curious about that. I'm guessing your one that will be blaming the fans that disagree with Bo as coach.
Bo will leave first chance he gets. Mark it down.
This shows shortsightedness... who do we get to replace him? Eh? Who? Al Golden? My goodness Miami is fantastic with him as a head coach aren't they! How are we better off as a program without him? Were we better off in 2007? Why do want a coach to leave after he possible just took a team to an 11-3/12-2 record?
With all the mistakes and issues this team has... they would still have been 12-2... seriously? So if they suck at recruiting, suck at preparing, suck at coaching, suck at EVERYTHING, how do they go 12-2? Comeback once and it might be luck, twice and lightning could have struck twice... but 3 times. It shows something else. It shows that these kids love their coach and fight their tail off for him and their teammates.
Oh, and by the way, if he wins a B1G title here he will have accomplished something old Billy C never could, and would be on par with Franky as well.... (with a worse team to start with).
as if he hasn't had those opportunities already... unbelievable.
If Bo leaves? Damn near anyone we want.
I actually think they're all the same person.
yeah. right. Because we could get anyone we wanted in 2004.
Urban Meyer's leaving Ohio State? Will Muschamp leaving Florida? Who exactly are you talking about "damn near anyone we want?" Nick Saban leaving Alabama? Chris Peterson isn't going to leave his job for this job. Neither is Gary Patterson? I guess you could get Derek Dooley if you wanted... you want him? Or how about Kirk Ferentz? I bet we could get him.
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The mere fact that he has talked to anyone untreated should show you he isn't here for the long haul. At least he has done a good enough job not to get fired. Couldn't say that a few weeks ago.
Wrong, you think to highly of your school. There are plenty of schools that i'd rather coach at.
Frank did make a NC appearance
"In the deed, the glory"
Seriously? That is an extremely poor argument. And we dang near got the best. But completely irrelevant today.
Don't think I'm wrong. I would rather think to highly of Nebraska than a below average coach like some of you.
Who was that HW?
Did not pay much attention to that coaching search
he did... you're right.
He "claims" it's Urban Meyer. Meyer never wanted to come here, he wanted SEC all the way.
Well I did. And it was a complete fail of a process by Steve. By Steve. Steve is not here anymore. So people should stop saying we have a mediocre job. And if you believe that, then agree that we have a mediocre coach that hasn't raised that bar.
The job is an above average job. It offers great resources like financial backing, facilities, and fanbase.
Its the recruiting that drops this JUST below that top tier of coaching jobs. We both know its a brutal school to recruit to based on perception. I love the state. Wouldn't mind living there (chicago born and raised) but the national perception and the expectations of the fanbase make this a hard place to work. Its a great place to work, but still...a hard place to work.
It's a good thing NE and Msu had coaching screw ups.
Winning the games we have won doesn't make us good
It makes us lucky to have beaten 3 very avg teams.
Do any of you really believe we are a top 15 team. REALLY?
Cuz we aren't. After year 5 we are still average
I pray we get a real team in a bowl. When we get our ass handed to us what will your excuse be then
Let me guess-"it's a process"
Cally recruited just fine. It can be done. TO got the best talent nation wide. It can be done.
You probably settle for short an fat I assume. Because anything better would be a tougher get.
The mind is a powerful thing. Anything is possible with the right frame of mind. Plus it takes a little give a chit.
And this is coming from a person closer to the program than probably most any of you.
Meyerkids gets it, obviously.
who comes here? Seriously? Anyone? [crickets].
That's what I thought. All the top tier coaches already have top tier jobs... Al Golden? Stretch. Gary Patterson. Possibility, doubt he'd leave TCU. Who else? Peterson? Not likely.
The fact is that we'd have to with someone unproven anyway and hope he's a Pete Carol (Without the cheating).
The negativity is astounding... It's funny... it's luck if we come back to win... but if the other team comes back to win it's bad coaching? It's luck when the other team drops INTs, but it's coaching when we drop INTs. It's luck if the other team muffs a punt that leads to a big play, it's coaching if we do it. It's luck if the opposing team has a personal foul penalty changing momentum and negating a big play, it's coaching if we do it. You can't have it both ways.
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